SkyWest TA
#162
The only 0-4 year 401k that’s higher than 4% is Horizon Air. All the AA WO are 3.5% or less, Mesa 3%, Gojet 2%. Overall Horizon has the best 401k package followed by SkyWest.
These are the QOL gains
- No stand-alone ready reserve
- Guaranteed 12 days off per month
- Same day straight swaps
The financial gains have been posted. You can argue not enough gains in the contract, but “concessions” lol, stop trolling.
These are the QOL gains
- No stand-alone ready reserve
- Guaranteed 12 days off per month
- Same day straight swaps
The financial gains have been posted. You can argue not enough gains in the contract, but “concessions” lol, stop trolling.
No ready actually puts EVERYONE on duty on ready. It’s a gain for the company.
#163
Banned
Joined: Jan 2021
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No stand alone ready is only a “gain” for reserves. (And the company). Not the majority of the pilot group. Eliminating ready is a concession for line holders. Why? Because with no ready reserves line holders will be reassigned so a short call can fill in for the line holder. Same day straight swaps - I like that. Gonna steal it.
No ready actually puts EVERYONE on duty on ready. It’s a gain for the company.
No ready actually puts EVERYONE on duty on ready. It’s a gain for the company.
Why is MESA still 11 days off for line holders? The answer is they’re at critical staffing levels and any give on time off takes 800 pilots and shrinks their availability more. Not a winning strategy and I don’t think any of the regionals will give out much quality of life gains. I think some of you guys are dreaming. Want more time at home? Apply to a Major.
Also doesn’t MESA routinely Jr. man their pilots into off days? So I’d argue it’s not even guaranteed 11 off. Hey at least you get 60% for the deadhead pay back home. Then you can take industry low DH pay and apply it your industry low 401k 3% match for the first 1-9 years.
Last edited by LAXtoDEN; 09-19-2022 at 01:27 PM.
#164
Line Holder
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 904
Likes: 0
I’m voting NO until the following are added to the TA:
-%20 direct contribution to I 401k day one
-MINIMUM 18 days off per month
-%150 pay per hour of work over 6 hours of duty
-%150 pay per leg over 2!
-Ability to trade or drop any trip any time I want
-First class confirmed seats to commute to and from work
Anyone not holding out for way more is an imbecile in this environment!
-%20 direct contribution to I 401k day one
-MINIMUM 18 days off per month
-%150 pay per hour of work over 6 hours of duty
-%150 pay per leg over 2!
-Ability to trade or drop any trip any time I want
-First class confirmed seats to commute to and from work
Anyone not holding out for way more is an imbecile in this environment!
#165
Line Holder
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 418
Likes: 1
From: FO
News flash everyone at every airline who’s a line holder has turned into a ready reserve. When I worked at SkyWest I did not mind being reflowed in the middle of a trip because you always finished before your original scheduled trip. I HATED ready reserve. 8 hour sits at the airport is the same as a prison sentence because you’re the final option so you never get called. Just sit and stare at walls all day, just brutal.
#166
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 3,201
Likes: 32
From: 4A2FU
You're not guaranteed to finish early on a reflow... wait until they start reflowing and extending you.
#167
Line Holder
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 418
Likes: 1
From: FO
Im aware of what can happen, Im only speaking from real personal experience. 6 years as a line holder only a two reflows and once request for "help" on the road and they all worked in my favor.
#169
Line Holder
Joined: Jul 2021
Posts: 489
Likes: 14
News flash everyone at every airline who’s a line holder has turned into a ready reserve. When I worked at SkyWest I did not mind being reflowed in the middle of a trip because you always finished before your original scheduled trip. I HATED ready reserve. 8 hour sits at the airport is the same as a prison sentence because you’re the final option so you never get called. Just sit and stare at walls all day, just brutal.
Why is MESA still 11 days off for line holders? The answer is they’re at critical staffing levels and any give on time off takes 800 pilots and shrinks their availability more. Not a winning strategy and I don’t think any of the regionals will give out much quality of life gains. I think some of you guys are dreaming. Want more time at home? Apply to a Major.
Also doesn’t MESA routinely Jr. man their pilots into off days? So I’d argue it’s not even guaranteed 11 off. Hey at least you get 60% for the deadhead pay back home. Then you can take industry low DH pay and apply it your industry low 401k 3% match for the first 1-9 years.
Why is MESA still 11 days off for line holders? The answer is they’re at critical staffing levels and any give on time off takes 800 pilots and shrinks their availability more. Not a winning strategy and I don’t think any of the regionals will give out much quality of life gains. I think some of you guys are dreaming. Want more time at home? Apply to a Major.
Also doesn’t MESA routinely Jr. man their pilots into off days? So I’d argue it’s not even guaranteed 11 off. Hey at least you get 60% for the deadhead pay back home. Then you can take industry low DH pay and apply it your industry low 401k 3% match for the first 1-9 years.
#170
Line Holder
Joined: Nov 2019
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
From: CA, ERJ-175
Ive had roughly the same experience. Some of this may come down to which domicile you are based in, but I've moved around a good bit and never felt like this reflow stuff warranted much attention. Same goes with reserve stuff, if you don't like reserve, give it a few months, you probably won't be on reserve anymore. I don't see much point in fighting tooth and nail for policy changes over topics like this. For me the only QOL improvements that can be made won't be made until we get more pilots in house -- I'm talking ability to drop trips. Other QOL change I'd like doesn't need a contract; I'd like to not fly so many gd 4-day trips when I live 15 minute from base (The company can make adjustments to that anytime they want).
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