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05-22-2015, 06:59 PM

#10431

fastback

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Joined APC: Jan 2012

Posts: 208

Quote:

Originally Posted by Utah

Call it whatever you want. Everyone else gets paid marketing block, yet we get less.

You're exactly right, and the takeaway from our credit system is that it's a pay cut for us. M20, credit used to be historical block, but now it's merely a product of an algorithm that a computer generates.

Having credit consistently below block provides pilots an incentive to fly slowly, which in general increases company revenue. Management will not want to change that situation. That's why I won't vote yes for any agreement that doesn't "true us up" for this pay cut, offering a 5MDG or equivalent.

05-22-2015, 07:14 PM

#10432

rickair7777

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Joined APC: Jan 2006

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Posts: 39,292

It's only a paycut if you fly really fast or cancel. Would be nice to fix, but there are much bigger fish to fry...like 5.0 MDG.

05-22-2015, 07:48 PM

#10433

Eric Bohn

New Hire

Joined APC: May 2015

Posts: 7

Is it common to credit less than 5 hours per day, or 4 for that matter? Or is that issue unrelated to an uncancelled flight day? What are you typically seeing for duty times for a 4-5 hour (or less) credit day?

05-22-2015, 08:14 PM

#10434

404yxl

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Posts: 988

Just wait until they start parking the 50 seat aircraft at a larger pace than the 70 seat aircraft arrive just to staff the airline.

05-22-2015, 08:21 PM

#10435

404yxl

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FaceBiter

Wait until CPZ loses the Delta contract because of performance. Jan 2016 is going to be an interesting time for y'all.

If it happens it happens. Those planes would have to be staffed elsewhere though.

The 50 seat aircraft at Skywest and others will just be parked. That is what prospective new hires need to be aware of.

05-22-2015, 08:25 PM

#10436

Is offline

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Joined APC: Apr 2013

Position: Broke

Posts: 784

Quote:

Originally Posted by 404yxl

The joke is the airlines are going to keep the 50's around for a very long time. It you think they are just going to park them all you believe way too much of their scare tactics...

05-22-2015, 08:26 PM

#10437

404yxl

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Is offline

The joke is the airlines are going to keep the 50's around for a very long time. It you think they are just going to park them all you believe way too much of their scare tactics...

With what regional pilots left? They will be struggling to staff all of the allowed 70 seat aircraft within the next 3-5 years.

05-22-2015, 09:20 PM

#10438

Is offline

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FaceBiter

PILOT SHORTAGE!!!!1'bbnnb!!!

Until it happens it does not exist! There is no shortage. There are tons of pilots (the smart ones) out there that have given up on the career. They can make more and be home at night and holidays. They have better benefits and there is no point in suffering because you "like" your job.

05-23-2015, 05:10 AM

#10439

AFflyer

Line Holder

Joined APC: May 2015

Posts: 82

Wow... Everyone here seems pretty angry... I thought I had my mind made up to apply at SW but I think I'm going to look at other regionals... Maybe I can find one that will pay me an extra $12,500 for my first year? I'm sure all the "clueless newbies" going to other carriers won't effect your QOL...