Nevets - That's not the way the language is written. Our bid would be for 5 captains and 5 FOs for each aircraft transferred over. And then a seniority list integration would take place in accordance with the Allegheny Mohawk LPPs 3 & 13 (same as McCaskill-Bond). And then a bid at Skywest would take place for those aircraft. Captains would go over as captains and FOs as FOs. Every pilot would keep their longevity for all pay and benefit purposes.


Call me when CC hasn't figured out a way to move aircraft without taking pilots with them. They have you beat at your own game. Sorry to have to clue you in.

 

You are focusing on the wrong thing. You are being too short sided.

Yes, they can transfer aircraft without pilots. Once the leases expire, they can do whatever they want with those aircraft. I'm talking about a worse case scenario in which they decide to shutter XJT. They'll let the 50 seaters expire. But I don't think they'll let the 59 700/900s go to a competitor if they can prevent that. Those aircraft are the bread and butter, the big revenue maker, the way of the future. Also, don't discredit the bilateral flow agreement for the furlough pilots. You never know what could happen there.

Anyway, that's all short sided. You put faith in management negotiating and agreeing against your interest behind your back. That's really what you should be looking at. Their fiduciary responsibility is not to us pilots. It's solely to the investors.

I'm sure that if it ever came to be that they transfer the 700/900s, they'll just show you charts and graphs to convince you to see it the way they want you to see it.

By the way, this goes above the pay grade of CC. This is decided by BOD.

 

Stop feeding the troll. This thread needs to get back on track.

 

Not sure if this has been asked before but has the implementation of 117 affected schedules? More specifically do you see a lot of wasted time in hotels like 20+ hours?

 

+1 for that.

 

Yes. There are a lot of 30 hour overnights and extremely low credit trips. I'm a really junior line holder though and the trips I got in Jan aren't too bad. It didn't even affect my commutability that much. There are still plenty of good trips if you're senior enough to hold them.

I think it varies a lot by base. I was looking at open time in other domiciles and there's some seriously bad stuff posted. The trips in my base isn't horrible.

 

This is precisely what I'm talking about. Most of you aren't willing to even discuss these issues. It's ok. I'm done with the discussion if all of you are. Sorry for the interruption.

 

The lines haven't gotten that bad here. In fact I flew with a few fuse that had blocks of 40 in 7 days. The almost worked one week on one off, and. They were junior.



Nevets, you're not discussing anything. You are blaming Skywest for the failure of expressjet to get a descent contract.

 

Thanks for answering my questions guys.

 

My trips are all fairly low paying trips. 3 four days and a two day. only 72 hours credit. They had to give me a reserve day to make it up. Im pretty junior in Houston (81%) Not very commutable at all but I live in base so not an issue. No 30hour layovers so thats good.