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Old 05-27-2014 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by NVUS
They can change the level of safety standards? I'm pretty sure everyone plays by the same rules. 121 is 121.
They can change the scope.
Old 05-27-2014 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
How about mainline doing their flying rather than subcontractors held to a lower experience and safety standard?

Yeah I would rather have that.
Please specify where the safety standards differ for regional vs mainline carriers. I'm sure we're all interested to see that.

Also, please provide data (accidents per mile, accidents per seat-mile, accidents per departure, etc) that show how the regionals' safety record is worse than the majors'.) You do have that data, right?
Old 05-27-2014 | 06:47 AM
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They can change the scope.
Yeah, and they ALL just changed it to allow regionals to fly up to 76-seaters. Next round of scope/pay negotiations at the majors are probably another 5 years or so away.
Old 05-27-2014 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
How about mainline doing their flying rather than subcontractors held to a lower experience and safety standard?

Yeah I would rather have that.

Ya, SkyWest has a lower safety standard than any of the legacies!

It's totally acceptable to fly stoned and drunk just to make the FFD!

You wouldn't believe the shortcuts we do just because the rules don't apply to us!

In fact just the other day I landed on a taxi way, but thought "no big deal, I'm just a regional pilot".
Old 05-27-2014 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyHigh423
Do you guys happen to know if Skywest is interviewing people below ATP Mins? I know a couple of airlines have been interviewing people below mins and then telling them to call when they have the hours or just giving them a far out class date. Also, Skywest does not use Airline Apps correct? You apply directly through their website?
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Correct. In fact, I just had to go on their website to apply, even though I had already interviewed and been hired (using the airlineapps process). Click on Careers, SkyWest Job Openings, and scroll down to find the FO job, then click on Open.

Good luck
Old 05-27-2014 | 07:24 AM
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I have no idea how Skywest (or any other regional) operates, so I won't comment about Skywest's level of safety compared to the legacies. But I came to my legacy from a national carrier, and the training and operating practices aren't even close to the same. 121 is a baseline - that's it.

At least that's how it was between my two 121 experiences. :shrug:

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Old 05-27-2014 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by NVUS


You're right, we should say no. No thanks, Delta. Let Compass have it. Or Mesaba. Or Shuttle. Or GoJet. Anyone but us, we already have enough. Thanks, though.




How about mainline doing their flying rather than subcontractors held to a lower experience and safety standard?

Yeah I would rather have that.
We would all rather have that. You're preaching to the choir.
Old 05-27-2014 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Bzzt
Skywest may win but all pilots lose in the long run. More outsourcing = fewer good career jobs.
It's not outsourcing MORE jobs. These are already ones outsourced and Delta is shifting the flying around. The majority of the guys at SkyWest (except for the top 10%) want to see mainline take back these jobs.
Old 05-27-2014 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by NVUS
Lots and lots of new routes in the northwest coming for both Delta and Alaska. Just wait.

Delta’s daily non-stop service between Seattle and Vancouver, B.C., begin June 5 (on Delta’s affiliate SkyWest Airlines).

Delta will fly four daily round-trip flights from Seattle to San Diego starting June 2 and the same number to Portland beginning Sept. 2. Both routes will be operated by Delta Connection partner SkyWest on Bombardier CRJ-900 regional jets.

Delta's new service from Seattle to San Jose will be operated by Delta Connection carrier SkyWest Airlines using 76-seat, two-class CRJ-900s.

Beginning December 20, 2014: Delta's new service from Seattle to Phoenix, Palm Springs and Tucson will be operated by Delta Connection carrier SkyWest Airlines using two-class, 76-seat aircraft, while Jackson Hole service will be operated with two-class, 65-seat aircraft.

Beginning June 9, Alaska will offer twice daily flights between Salt Lake City and Portland. The morning flights between the two cities will be operated by SkyWest Airlines

On June 9, Alaska will also add a third nonstop flight to its existing service between Salt Lake City and Seattle, which will be operated using a CRJ-700 aircraft.

And no offense to Horizon but SkyWest has before and will again fly between SEA and PDX.
Do you have a link or source of this announcement?
Old 05-27-2014 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by NVUS
Lots and lots of new routes in the northwest coming for both Delta and Alaska. Just wait.

Delta’s daily non-stop service between Seattle and Vancouver, B.C., begin June 5 (on Delta’s affiliate SkyWest Airlines).

Delta will fly four daily round-trip flights from Seattle to San Diego starting June 2 and the same number to Portland beginning Sept. 2. Both routes will be operated by Delta Connection partner SkyWest on Bombardier CRJ-900 regional jets.

Delta's new service from Seattle to San Jose will be operated by Delta Connection carrier SkyWest Airlines using 76-seat, two-class CRJ-900s.

Beginning December 20, 2014: Delta's new service from Seattle to Phoenix, Palm Springs and Tucson will be operated by Delta Connection carrier SkyWest Airlines using two-class, 76-seat aircraft, while Jackson Hole service will be operated with two-class, 65-seat aircraft.

Beginning June 9, Alaska will offer twice daily flights between Salt Lake City and Portland. The morning flights between the two cities will be operated by SkyWest Airlines

On June 9, Alaska will also add a third nonstop flight to its existing service between Salt Lake City and Seattle, which will be operated using a CRJ-700 aircraft.

And no offense to Horizon but SkyWest has before and will again fly between SEA and PDX.
I said this about sux months ago. The Mx department has been getting ready for about 30 700's into Pdx. Almost a 1:1 700/175 movement from ORD/SFO as the 76seat planes come on line. For Alaska. It's been discussed on one of these threads here.
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