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Old 01-02-2015 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by skypilot35
To which side of the storm are you referring?
70 resignations have been submitted this month. Over 70 upgrades were awarded. Movement will continue and accelerate. It will not be an issue for CCB because he is stuck for whatever reason, but if I had to venture a guess it's because of his "bedside manner". I find it ironic that he thinks he has it all figured out dropping his turds (can I use turd on APC?) of wisdom, but can't figure out why guys junior to him are getting hired by the majors.

For the most part the guys I fly with have been here for 20 years or more. They do their job and don't spew a bunch of anti-establishment rhetoric. They are what a Captain should be.

Sorry about using the "d-word". How about tool?
Sorry FanBoy,
I will move right along just as soon as I am sure it is the right time and to the right place. Since my situation is pretty decent, it will have to be a top tier move, Spirit ain't gonna cut it for me. The majors have been hiring more than a few for what, a year? Like I said this is 4 D chess not checkers. SKYW F/Os are leaving daily for any number of quick/CQFO slots, when the rats flee the ship, you gotta ask, why? When I listen to the F/Os it becomes clear, they don't have any plans, it's jump at the first, different thing that comes along, and to operate in thes shark infested waters, rudderless is foolhardy. If my musings cause one guy to think about what he is gonna do with some planning, it's worth it. I don't really have a dog in this pit, it's the guys like WRX who need the next layer of airline fodder to allow them to upgrade. I have mine, have had it for awhile, and could afford to take an early retirement and live quite comfortably. Do the math....70 resignations, 70 upgrades, how many new hires????
Old 01-02-2015 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB
CCB is a good stabilizing and rational counter to the rest of the "Roses and Rainbows" crowd. It's good to see both ends of the spectrum to come to your own conclusion, no?

Regarding resignations, they are nearly all FOs. The ones who see the writing on the wall, I would gather.
I agree. The guy just aggravates me with the negative attitude. He needs some wall to wall counseling.
Old 01-02-2015 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by skypilot35
I agree. The guy just aggravates me with the negative attitude. He needs some wall to wall counseling.
Not hard to find, I will welcome your council...
Old 01-02-2015 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB
CCB is a good stabilizing and rational counter to the rest of the "Roses and Rainbows" crowd. It's good to see both ends of the spectrum to come to your own conclusion, no?

Regarding resignations, they are nearly all FOs. The ones who see the writing on the wall, I would gather.
Leaving F/Os are a triple edged sword, easy to lose, hard to replace, and the front of the plane requires their presence. F/Os leaving is a spiral that SKYW cannot afford for even a momentary slice of time. When a F/O leaves it's a 2 training event and 2 hiring event loss, and when he goes to another carrier it's a loss difficult to estimate in the correct magnitude. For WRX and the more simple folks, Captain leaves=good , F/O leaves=bad. Do the math...
Old 01-02-2015 | 01:33 PM
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The company never furloughed because they had turboprops in the way and it would have created a nightmare in training logistics. Those turboprops will be gone soon and when the 200s start coming off contract and the EMB 175 flying continues to go elsewhere, the company will do what it needs to do. The grand plan is to shrink to profitability and become a smaller and leaner airline. How small is the question we all have to wait and see. If I was a new hire at the bottom and had a chance to get out, I'd be gone in a heartbeat.
Old 01-02-2015 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Flip69
The company never furloughed because they had turboprops in the way and it would have created a nightmare in training logistics. Those turboprops will be gone soon and when the 200s start coming off contract and the EMB 175 flying continues to go elsewhere, the company will do what it needs to do. The grand plan is to shrink to profitability and become a smaller and leaner airline. How small is the question we all have to wait and see. If I was a new hire at the bottom and had a chance to get out, I'd be gone in a heartbeat.
BOOM..........some one before said financial reasons before, who was that again?
Old 01-02-2015 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Flip69
The company never furloughed because they had turboprops in the way and it would have created a nightmare in training logistics. Those turboprops will be gone soon and when the 200s start coming off contract and the EMB 175 flying continues to go elsewhere, the company will do what it needs to do. The grand plan is to shrink to profitability and become a smaller and leaner airline. How small is the question we all have to wait and see. If I was a new hire at the bottom and had a chance to get out, I'd be gone in a heartbeat.
Why wouldn't Skywest just stay the same size or grow a little bit cherry picking the good xjt crj contracts and shrink xjt?
Old 01-02-2015 | 01:45 PM
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Why wouldn't Skywest just stay the same size or grow a little bit cherry picking the good xjt crj contracts and shrink xjt?
Because that's 2D checkers and the game is 4D chess......
Old 01-02-2015 | 02:11 PM
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Because that's 2D checkers and the game is 4D chess......
Tell us what the 4D game play is then.
Old 01-02-2015 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by CloudShredder
Tell us what the 4D game play is then.
If you are a pilot in the airline industry, too late, you are already playing. If you need basic coaching/rule explanation at this point, well, you better start figuring it out. I am sure WRX will give you some advice. Grabbing the tiger by the tail, kicking it in the junk and then asking "how do I not get mauled" is like "fire, ready, aim" on the firing line. After 25+ years in this business, it is patently obvious that each individual has variables that create a series of complex choices not easily scriptable in a generic sense.
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