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Old 01-02-2015 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by grasshoppr
This would be great news for many. Not doubting you but would you care to share your math and logic?
Sure, moving up in seniority at the rate of 14% per year, most Jr capt is 37% seniority (from the bottom), 37/14 is 2.64.

So IF this rate of movement and hiring continues, which many are saying it will INCREASE, but I'm just projecting with constant movement because that's all I can really go off.
Old 01-02-2015 | 02:25 PM
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Sorry FanBoy,
I will move right along just as soon as I am sure it is the right time and to the right place. Since my situation is pretty decent, it will have to be a top tier move, Spirit ain't gonna cut it for me. The majors have been hiring more than a few for what, a year? Like I said this is 4 D chess not checkers. SKYW F/Os are leaving daily for any number of quick/CQFO slots, when the rats flee the ship, you gotta ask, why? When I listen to the F/Os it becomes clear, they don't have any plans, it's jump at the first, different thing that comes along, and to operate in thes shark infested waters, rudderless is foolhardy. If my musings cause one guy to think about what he is gonna do with some planning, it's worth it. I don't really have a dog in this pit, it's the guys like WRX who need the next layer of airline fodder to allow them to upgrade. I have mine, have had it for awhile, and could afford to take an early retirement and live quite comfortably. Do the math....70 resignations, 70 upgrades, how many new hires????
F/Os have many more options that are a step up for them but may not pay off for a CA. Spirit, Allegiant, Virgin America, Frontier are too much of a pay cut for too long for a CA to see much value in going there, but most F/Os will walk right into a pay raise.
Old 01-02-2015 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
Not hard to find, I will welcome your council...
You welcome my counsel....basic grammar idiot. PM me your info, I'll happily give you the attention you deserve.
Old 01-02-2015 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
His bed-side manner isn't the greatest, but haven't heard him say anything which isn't true. SKW has some serious hurdles in the near-term. Long-term they've always done OK but who knows what they'll look like when they come out the other side of the storm.

I suggest you take charge of your dreams and make them happen. If you're a new-hire a SKW I'd look into CZ if you want to live in the west.

The best-case scenario for SKW new-hires has nothing to do with upgrade...your best hope is that the majors will start hiring RJ FO's on a wholesale basis.

Also, don't use the d-word again on APC (official warning).
Your opinion. My opinion, I haven't heard him say anything. Kinda like reading one of Chip's emails. A lot of words, nothing said.



Originally Posted by CloudShredder
Tell us what the 4D game play is then.
Don't ask him question he can't answer because he has no idea what he's talking about. #CCBisclueless





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Old 01-02-2015 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by StuckMike
Sure, moving up in seniority at the rate of 14% per year, most Jr capt is 37% seniority (from the bottom), 37/14 is 2.64.

So IF this rate of movement and hiring continues, which many are saying it will INCREASE, but I'm just projecting with constant movement because that's all I can really go off.
Love it, more checkers, remember this day, so you can look back from the future and reminisce about how clueless you were. Now look to '15 and tell me how many 200s coming off contract again....
Old 01-02-2015 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
If you are a pilot in the airline industry, too late, you are already playing. If you need basic coaching/rule explanation at this point, well, you better start figuring it out. I am sure WRX will give you some advice. Grabbing the tiger by the tail, kicking it in the junk and then asking "how do I not get mauled" is like "fire, ready, aim" on the firing line. After 25+ years in this business, it is patently obvious that each individual has variables that create a series of complex choices not easily scriptable in a generic sense.
Not in the game yet. Will be soon. I've been figuring out all that I can the last few years. I'm just curious about your pessimistic idea that SkyWest wants to shrink and lose business. The big question that we're all curious about is why? What does the company have to gain by shrinking, and why would they be getting new aircraft and new contracts if they plan to shrink?

Only thing I can gather is that the pilot group is becoming top heavy and expenses to operate are ever increasing, and by shrinking they will mitigate costs. I'm just not fully comprehending so your insight was/is appreciated...
Old 01-02-2015 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by skypilot35
You welcome my counsel....basic grammar idiot. PM me your info, I'll happily give you the attention you deserve.
Oh great, the spelling bee champ, and tough guy! Priceless!
Old 01-02-2015 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
Sorry FanBoy,
I will move right along just as soon as I am sure it is the right time and to the right place. Since my situation is pretty decent, it will have to be a top tier move, Spirit ain't gonna cut it for me. The majors have been hiring more than a few for what, a year? Like I said this is 4 D chess not checkers. SKYW F/Os are leaving daily for any number of quick/CQFO slots, when the rats flee the ship, you gotta ask, why? When I listen to the F/Os it becomes clear, they don't have any plans, it's jump at the first, different thing that comes along, and to operate in thes shark infested waters, rudderless is foolhardy. If my musings cause one guy to think about what he is gonna do with some planning, it's worth it. I don't really have a dog in this pit, it's the guys like WRX who need the next layer of airline fodder to allow them to upgrade. I have mine, have had it for awhile, and could afford to take an early retirement and live quite comfortably. Do the math....70 resignations, 70 upgrades, how many new hires????
^Jelly that FOs can move on while you're trapped in your job. Calls it "shark infested waters", but has no idea *** he's talking about.





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Old 01-02-2015 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
Oh great, the spelling bee champ, and tough guy! Priceless!
That's right Ace. Make sure you have someone proofread that toilet paper you call a resume. That might be one of the reasons you're not getting an invitation for an interview; although, I'm guessing you're too arrogant to allow someone to give you some help.
Old 01-02-2015 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CloudShredder
Not in the game yet. Will be soon. I've been figuring out all that I can the last few years. I'm just curious about your pessimistic idea that SkyWest wants to shrink and lose business. The big question that we're all curious about is why? What does the company have to gain by shrinking, and why would they be getting new aircraft and new contracts if they plan to shrink?

Only thing I can gather is that the pilot group is becoming top heavy and expenses to operate are ever increasing, and by shrinking they will mitigate costs. I'm just not fully comprehending so your insight was/is appreciated...
Econ 101,
Would you rather sell tickets on a 2 seat plane at a million dollars each or 50 tickets at 2 dollars each on an RJ? Both to the same destination....
Pilot costs are a small component of the operating costs when comparing 7th year captain vs 18th year captain. The average Internet solution of "just fly more flights, with me as the captain" is not going to solve the issue. Read the Skywest 10 K and 10 Qs understand them. Then you will be on the path to understand the industry.
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