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amcnd 06-28-2016 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 2152181)
Envoy helps no other operation out. Why should they get united benefits? Same for the others you pointed out.


If I fly a paint scheme, I want the benefits. I help them they help me. That's not complaining, that's setting expectations. But without a union we have no representation anyway.

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Exactaly. They shouldn't.. So why should we. Be thankfull we get UA even though i never fly a UA RJ!!!

elmetal 06-28-2016 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2152185)
Exactaly. They shouldn't.. So why should we. Be thankfull we get UA even though i never fly a UA RJ!!!

Because in Denver we fly American planes with no American benefits.... why does American benefit from us with no Bennies

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amcnd 06-28-2016 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 2152186)
Because in Denver we fly American planes with no American benefits.... why does American benefit from us with no Bennies

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Nevermind. But i would doubt a union alpa would tackel getting travel benifits. If they did nit would come at some cost to the pilot group.. Not interested in giving leverage for AA benifits that i will never use...

elmetal 06-28-2016 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2152199)
Nevermind. But i would doubt a union alpa would tackel getting travel benifits. If they did nit would come at some cost to the pilot group.. Not interested in giving leverage for AA benifits that i will never use...

I won't use them either. I was just pointing out the fact that it's not us complaining or being entitled.

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elmetal 06-28-2016 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate (Post 2152402)
Get that union drive going!!!! Gotta get you flight bennies on AA!!!

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It's not about the stupid benefits. It's one thing after another. Every airline is gaining at a profit record and here we are giving away.

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amcnd 06-28-2016 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 2152403)
*******

It's not about the stupid benefits. It's one thing after another. Every airline is gaining at a profit record and here we are giving away.

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But its the same at alpa airlines. "One thing after another". Nothin will
Change. Majors have the same problem.. My AA pilot neighbor says the same thing.. Its always "One thing after another".. If you want perfection win the loto buy a jet and write your own perfect contract for yourself...

SMACFUM 06-28-2016 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2152408)
But its the same at alpa airlines. "One thing after another". Nothin will
Change. Majors have the same problem.. My AA pilot neighbor says the same thing.. Its always "One thing after another".. If you want perfection win the loto buy a jet and write your own perfect contract for yourself...

This mentality is so idiotic, I really don't get it. ALPA or not, Major or not.......you don't get what you deserve......you get what you can negotiate (ask for, demand, complain about.....whatever......)

Without people complaining, and demanding better, nothing will change. In fact, they get worse. You have to fight to get things you want in this world.

By your logic, we should should just take what we're given or offered? Just because? or because it happens at alpa carriers or mainline?
That mentality is the #1 problem with this industry.

stillcantfly 06-28-2016 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by SMACFUM (Post 2152447)
This mentality is so idiotic, I really don't get it. ALPA or not, Major or not.......you don't get what you deserve......you get what you can negotiate (ask for, demand, complain about.....whatever......)

Without people complaining, and demanding better, nothing will change. In fact, they get worse. You have to fight to get things you want in this world.

By your logic, we should should just take what we're given or offered? Just because? or because it happens at alpa carriers or mainline?
That mentality is the #1 problem with this industry.

Or we can all vote for billery she's going to give us all free **** and take our guns we won't have to worry about a thing!!!!

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