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Old 10-18-2016 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by zondaracer
It will be a mixed class. If there are more FOs than captains, then there will be some FO/FO pairs and some FOs will sit in the left seat for half of the sim time.
Ok thanks .. and FOs will also get a PIC type rating regardless of seating arrangements?
Old 10-18-2016 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by VHDSJ
Ok thanks .. and FOs will also get a PIC type rating regardless of seating arrangements?
Of course. Everyone gets pic types.
Old 10-18-2016 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by VHDSJ
Ok thanks .. and FOs will also get a PIC type rating regardless of seating arrangements?
PIC type ratings are required for all 121 pilots.
Old 10-18-2016 | 03:22 PM
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Anybody know where I can find a list of bases based on most junior to senior?
Old 10-18-2016 | 04:06 PM
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Based solely on the most junior pilot in each base on the seniority list:
Most junior to senior:
SFO-ER7 9/15/2016
ORD-CRJ 9/05/2016
MSP-CRJ 9/05/2016
DTW-CRJ 9/05/2016
FAT-CRJ. 8/08/2016
SEA-ER7 8/04/2016
LAX-ER7 8/04/2016
PDX-ER7 7/07/2016
LAX-CRJ 6/27/2016
TUS-CRJ 6/06/2016
PSP-CRJ 6/06/2016
SFO-CRJ 6/06/2016
SLC-CRJ 5/09/2016
PHX-CRJ 12/08/2015?
ORD-ER7 5/12/2016
DEN-ER7 5/12/2016
COS-CRJ 4/25/2016
DEN-CRJ 4/25/2016
SEA-CRJ 11/23/2015
IAH-CRJ 8/24/2015

This does not reflect how many senior guys are in base. For example, a senior FO in DTW could be higher up percentage wise than if they were in MSP.

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Old 10-18-2016 | 05:25 PM
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I was hired in July, I haven't even touched an airplane and I'm in the 70% range in DTW. Stay there. We need growth.
Old 10-18-2016 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ImPilot I Fly
I was hired in July, I haven't even touched an airplane and I'm in the 70% range in DTW. Stay there. We need growth.
Stay in the books. The paid time off/seniority building is nice (beats reserve) but it can bite you in the butt if you let the knowledge fade and then try to jump in an airliner.

Do some international nonrev if you can, may be hard to do later on.
Old 10-19-2016 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by WesternSkies
This new rehire policy is an amazing thing for this pilot group.
Those rehired retain prior longevity pay, but start over at the bottom of the seniority list.

The loss of medical insurance is a big bright spot coming down the pike for this pilot group too.
I really couldn't disagree more. The rehire policy is skw's cheap plan to not give any of us a retention bonus as you are seeing at other regionals. Frankly if I left and had to come back to a regional why would I come back here? There are no sign on bonuses and no retention bonuses and with payscales across the board for FO's essentially at 40$ there is no gain here either. It unfortunately is a poorly worked or negotiated farce in the hands of skw. As for the loss of medical insurance well again thats great if you are a skw lifer but most of us are not and want out so other than giving people another reason to jam up the seniority list this is not a gain in any way. Frankly this is simply a retention bonus for skw and nothing to do with the pilot group. I would be shocked if people really thought otherwise.
Old 10-19-2016 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by soakingpilot
I really couldn't disagree more. The rehire policy is skw's cheap plan to not give any of us a retention bonus as you are seeing at other regionals. Frankly if I left and had to come back to a regional why would I come back here? There are no sign on bonuses and no retention bonuses and with payscales across the board for FO's essentially at 40$ there is no gain here either. It unfortunately is a poorly worked or negotiated farce in the hands of skw. As for the loss of medical insurance well again thats great if you are a skw lifer but most of us are not and want out so other than giving people another reason to jam up the seniority list this is not a gain in any way. Frankly this is simply a retention bonus for skw and nothing to do with the pilot group. I would be shocked if people really thought otherwise.
Sign-on and retention bonuses? Well I get thousands of dollars of performance bonuses every year. Plus 28 hours of holiday pay.

Also have you spent much time at other regionals? There's a reason that half of SKW pilots came from other regionals...if something happens and you end up spending more time as a regional pilot than you planned (my entire generation got to do this for about 15 years) SKW is about the best place to be unless you live in a base for one of a handful of other regionals.

The loss-of-medical (aka loss of license) insurance has nothing to do with the company...it was arranged by SAPA for the benefit of those who want it. If you don't want it, don't sign up. It was not traded instead of something else.

The rehire policy is useful for folks who have been here a while. ANYBODY who is planning on doing the traditional career track of upgrading, getting 1K-2K TPIC and then going to a major should appreciate that. If you flunk out or get furloughed you would likely be able to come back here, get a paycheck and bennies, and then upgrade again in a couple years. Now you're probably at 7-10 years longevity which isn't horrible. I don't think it cost us much if anything, it's good for the company because it enables senior (expensive) CA's to move on with a fallback position.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Sign-on and retention bonuses? Well I get thousands of dollars of performance bonuses every year. Plus 28 hours of holiday pay.

Also have you spent much time at other regionals? There's a reason that half of SKW pilots came from other regionals...if something happens and you end up spending more time as a regional pilot than you planned (my entire generation got to do this for about 15 years) SKW is about the best place to be unless you live in a base for one of a handful of other regionals.

The loss-of-medical (aka loss of license) insurance has nothing to do with the company...it was arranged by SAPA for the benefit of those who want it. If you don't want it, don't sign up. It was not traded instead of something else.

The rehire policy is useful for folks who have been here a while. ANYBODY who is planning on doing the traditional career track of upgrading, getting 1K-2K TPIC and then going to a major should appreciate that. If you flunk out or get furloughed you would likely be able to come back here, get a paycheck and bennies, and then upgrade again in a couple years. Now you're probably at 7-10 years longevity which isn't horrible. I don't think it cost us much if anything, it's good for the company because it enables senior (expensive) CA's to move on with a fallback position.
Well first off 40 x 128 is 1120 and even including perf and quaterly bonuses it doesnt come near what other regionals are offering first year FO's or CA's in terms of compensation via bonus. Further your disqualifying statement of myself having NOT ( your right ) been at other regionals though being just fodder for flame makes an interesting point. For whatever reasons skw may have in fact been the place to hang your hat well things change. These two policies put in place are in my view of course minute attempts to appease a pilot group who is simply under compensated in todays market. Ill reiterate again that they only really help to benefit skw who I think going forward will be the group who is in fact no longer filling classes to the level they want because simply of money for a new hire. They are disguised to look beneficial as if the company cares but the reality is they are just saving themselves and protecting the product they have to offer to the majors going forward.

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