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Old 02-03-2017 | 12:32 PM
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From the call, "We replaced these nine CRJ700s with new E175s under long-term flying agreements with Alaska. At year-end 2016 all nine CRJ700s were removed from service and all lease return charges are accounted for on these aircraft. "
Wasn't the rumor that some stuck around to cover a bit of flying?

The call wasn't really reassuring. 175 flying is mostly delivered and nothing on the public horizon. ExpressJ transitioning to mainly a dual-class airline. Wall Street was unfortunately interested in pilot costs, where not long ago they were asking about pilot pay issues.
Oh well. I was short going into earning.
Old 02-03-2017 | 12:37 PM
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Basicly 19 more 175's to be delivered in "this current batch". Yes there are 2-700's and 1-200. On temp flying duty to cover Horizon flights for Alaska..they dont talk about those much, but dont need too. But 20 -200's staying for AA. Thats good need... i thought it seemed optimistic about more 175's in 2018 and beyond... will see.. they need a break from furious training to move all the sims to denver..
Old 02-03-2017 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by WesternSkies
Wall Street was unfortunately interested in pilot costs
I read it as being concerned about training cost - arguably driven by attrition.
Old 02-03-2017 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by N1234
I read it as being concerned about training cost - arguably driven by attrition.
That was pre-training all the 175 pilots for the 19 aircraft that came in a mater of 45 days..
Old 02-03-2017 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Openskies
Hello aviation enthusiasts, (you have to have a passion for the skies… if it was only for the money we would all be doing something else, right?)
I have decided to interview with a few airlines starting in March 2017. After spending almost 20 years flying cargo (small SE and ME aircraft), I would like to explore the airline world (and dedicate my next 20 career years to one of them). I have some crew environment and a few hundred hours of jet experience (from my life before cargo).
Most of my friends think that I’m out of my mind, that I shouldn’t trade a $80K/year cargo pilot salary, or the days-off (guaranteed 22 vacation days and 12 sick days per year) or the life style of being home every night and don’t work weekends and holidays, for what the airlines (mainly regionals) have to offer. My argument is that there is no room for improvement as a pilot in the position that I am right now.
I would like to hear the opinion of the people that are active in the job (CAs and FOs) about your lifestyle at SW.
I have been preparing for the interview for the last two months (I have found out that I was really rusty in some areas, even being a check airman) and believe that I have a good chance to pass it (I don't know if the 12,000+ hours of flight will work in my favor, due to the type of aircraft and flying).

My question is simple… if you were in my shoes, what you think would be the hardest challenges working for SW (knowing what you know now)?

Any feedback will be highly appreciated.
Where do you work now ? Dosent seem like a bad gig.I will apply as soon as you leave.I'm burnt out with rj's
Old 02-03-2017 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Squallrider
I believe it's 8 more175s by June, and ORD aren't getting any. So 8x16 = 128openings west coast, or 64 a side. Look for BOI base before end 2nd quarter
The press release for the earnings report has a delivery schedule. 7 in the first quarter and 10 in the second. Second quarter deliveries are 5 each for UA and Delta. I'd think though that the company has already trained most of the pilots for these deliveries. They'd certainly have them done by early second quarter.

Additionally, I think they've always had plenty of staffing on the 175 in anticipation of future aircraft. Once they're all here I'd bet it will run the more traditional 5-6 crews per aircraft.

I might be up for a BOI domicile though. The wife wants out of Utah as we're not LDS, and after 17 years we still don't really fit in.
Old 02-03-2017 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Bravix
So I was recently told by one of the pilot recruiter/interview individuals at the first day orientation deal that (not word for word) a pay increase is expected. Was very vague. Perhaps just his own hopes.

Anything rumor mill wise? From my understanding of what was said later on that day, if there are bonuses, they probably won't effect current employees so much as new guys (so the typical bonus to attract people).


Sounds like management priming the optimism pump...pilots have very large installed optimism pumps, doesn't take much to get them going.
Old 02-03-2017 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Utah
The press release for the earnings report has a delivery schedule. 7 in the first quarter and 10 in the second. Second quarter deliveries are 5 each for UA and Delta. I'd think though that the company has already trained most of the pilots for these deliveries. They'd certainly have them done by early second quarter.

Additionally, I think they've always had plenty of staffing on the 175 in anticipation of future aircraft. Once they're all here I'd bet it will run the more traditional 5-6 crews per aircraft.

I might be up for a BOI domicile though. The wife wants out of Utah as we're not LDS, and after 17 years we still don't really fit in.

5-6 crews per plane!!?? Not on the 175.. RSR even said. That was the first big snafu.. They know the plane flys more then the CRJ. Lager "daily foot print" .. red eyes even... it will be 8-10 per seat!!! Right now they are at about 7 per seat...
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Originally Posted by rickair7777


Sounds like management priming the optimism pump...pilots have very large installed optimism pumps, doesn't take much to get them going.
They're not going to bump pay until people stop showing up. Seems pretty simple to me. They're still filling classes.
Old 02-03-2017 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777


Sounds like management priming the optimism pump...pilots have very large installed optimism pumps, doesn't take much to get them going.
That's what I figured. Like someone else said, people keep showing up, so I figured it was just talk.

I do hope they decide to up it at least a few dollars in the near future to make it a bit more competitive. Numerous regionals have low upgrade times and considerably better pay...but New York >.>
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