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Old 04-24-2017 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by word302
If you think that a legacy is going to spend less than 5 minutes looking over your logs you might have a few surprises in the future. Rick is giving good advice. You are new to the game. You may want to slow your roll a little. Just because someone at a regional told you to do something doesn't make it a good idea for your future.
I'm not saying it's bad advice, I'm just saying literally your employer tells you to log it that way. What does my seniority at the company have anything to do with that? You guys suggesting a simple log of level-d time (which is rightfully legal to log) will not get you a job at a major are being dramatic. You don't need seniority to know that.

Can anyone on this forum just accept maybe someone has a different opinion than theirs without making a personal remark? I generally get along with everyone here. Sounds like I ruffled some feathers just saying you can log it? Mainline apps will have you clarify the difference anyways.
Old 04-24-2017 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
You are correct for regionals, they don't give a crap, some would probably rather you pencil whip your book if that will get you to class faster.

But logbooks are forever, and majors (particularly some legacies) are known to be very "detail oriented" in this regard.

But it's a free country, your logbook, and your career. Suit yourself. You don't have to comply with established custom in the airline industry, you can establish your own trends.
I definitely agree. Unfortunately, some of my logbook was pretty sloppy when I first started. I didn't really view it as a professionalism item, just something cool to log flight time. I can't really go back and fix the colors, white out and terrible handwriting now. Which is why I personally will be printing mine because that's the most professional thing I can do at this point. I have no problems explaining that and from my past it hasn't rattled any employers yet. I was just playing devils advocate, I guess. Lots of there online logging it that way because most instructors tell you to do so at flight safety. As well as many people getting hired below mins counting on that sim total time.

Sorry to go against the grain. I'm all for the professional image but if the damage is done now. From my experience of mainline apps it doesn't look like it should be a problem if you put it correctly in there.
Old 04-24-2017 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tcco94
I definitely agree. Unfortunately, some of my logbook was pretty sloppy when I first started. I didn't really view it as a professionalism item, just something cool to log flight time. I can't really go back and fix the colors, white out and terrible handwriting now. Which is why I personally will be printing mine because that's the most professional thing I can do at this point. I have no problems explaining that and from my past it hasn't rattled any employers yet. I was just playing devils advocate, I guess. Lots of there online logging it that way because most instructors tell you to do so at flight safety. As well as many people getting hired below mins counting on that sim total time.

Sorry to go against the grain. I'm all for the professional image but if the damage is done now. From my experience of mainline apps it doesn't look like it should be a problem if you put it correctly in there.
It's crazy how you just got hired in January with a R-ATP, and you're already looking at the majors. I hate to say it, but you're in for a rude awakening. Aeronautical university kids crack me up.
Old 04-25-2017 | 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by NonRevBallin
It's crazy how you just got hired in January with a R-ATP, and you're already looking at the majors. I hate to say it, but you're in for a rude awakening. Aeronautical university kids crack me up.
What's the problem with having your app filled out....?
At some point down the road he/she will reach competitive minimums, so why not already have the application complete. Being able to show you've had your application in and have been updating it on a regular basis since starting in the 121 world can mean a lot.
Who ****ed in your cheerios dude?
Old 04-25-2017 | 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by NonRevBallin
It's crazy how you just got hired in January with a R-ATP, and you're already looking at the majors. I hate to say it, but you're in for a rude awakening. Aeronautical university kids crack me up.
He/she isn't too far off from possibly getting hired at a major.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news for you, but there are a number of relatively junior FOs moving on to the majors with no military or TPIC. The only way you can guarantee you won't get a call is if you don't your apps in.
Old 04-25-2017 | 05:43 AM
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Guys do you think that Mesa will lose the contract with United and Skywest will take over Houston with 175s ? I was considering to apply for Mesa because of the base but Skywest is a better place to work for sure. Thank you for any advise
Old 04-25-2017 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotled
Guys do you think that Mesa will lose the contract with United and Skywest will take over Houston with 175s ? I was considering to apply for Mesa because of the base but Skywest is a better place to work for sure. Thank you for any advise
Dunno. Mesa has been fired multiple times in the past. But if you wait long enough, they'll be back.
Old 04-25-2017 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotled
Guys do you think that Mesa will lose the contract with United and Skywest will take over Houston with 175s ? I was considering to apply for Mesa because of the base but Skywest is a better place to work for sure. Thank you for any advise
Yes, May 20th that will happen, we will also get 20 175s for AA in DFW, new base there as well, plus the BOI and ATL base.

Nodoby knows!! But, if you were/are considering Mesa, I'll say go for it!!
Old 04-25-2017 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by NonRevBallin
It's crazy how you just got hired in January with a R-ATP, and you're already looking at the majors. I hate to say it, but you're in for a rude awakening. Aeronautical university kids crack me up.

He should be. Nobody has quite yet cracked the code as to what the HR filters are looking for, but we've had more than a few FO's with 1,001 turbine 121 SIC go to majors, even legacies.

If nothing else they seem to like sustained long-term interest (update your app every month or two). Upgrade's right around the corner, better to be the guy with 1,000 TPIC who's had his app in (and updated) for several years than the guy with 1,000 TPIC who just applied yesterday.
Old 04-25-2017 | 06:10 AM
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