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Rocksteady 04-23-2017 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by word302 (Post 2349220)
Negative. CTP is a prerequisite of an ATP. You only need show that you completed a CTP. If you meet all the requirements of an ATP there is no requirement to log the CTP training. Logging sim time just muddies my log book. If it's not required, it ain't goin' in there.

Yep your right, I corrected it

WesternSkies 04-23-2017 11:12 AM

Scrape, scrape.

Majerus 04-23-2017 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by Ace66 (Post 2349208)
It doesn't go in total time - I know that. It can count towards Total Time for the ATP but it is not Total Flight Time. My OP was a little vague:

1) Do we need to enter it in our logs to meet 1500 or does SKW keep the record of it?

2) Do I need a signature?

Ya It does go into total time if you're going to log it and NO you don't need a signature

WaterRooster 04-23-2017 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by Majerus (Post 2349272)
Ya It does go into total time if you're going to log it and NO you don't need a signature

I have never heard of Level D sims being added to total time. It goes in the Sim column and that's it. You can use that simulator time to meet up to a certain amount of hours (can't remember off he top of my head) of the total time requirement toward your ATP, but it still is not logged as total time.

hotbreeze 04-23-2017 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by WaterRooster (Post 2349283)
I have never heard of Level D sims being added to total time. It goes in the Sim column and that's it. You can use that simulator time to meet up to a certain amount of hours (can't remember off he top of my head) of the total time requirement toward your ATP, but it still is not logged as total time.

Not more than 100 hours (which is a lot unless someone works for a sim co).

rickair7777 04-23-2017 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by hotbreeze (Post 2349306)
Not more than 100 hours (which is a lot unless someone works for a sim co).

No, the answer is zero.

Sim time, which is logged as Sim time, can be used to reduce the actual flight time required to meet certain aeronautical experience requirements.

That does not mean it IS flight time, and certainly does not mean it gets logged as flight time.

WesternSkies 04-23-2017 07:30 PM

Whip that pencil out again.

TimetoClimb 04-23-2017 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by WaterRooster (Post 2349283)
I have never heard of Level D sims being added to total time. It goes in the Sim column and that's it. You can use that simulator time to meet up to a certain amount of hours (can't remember off he top of my head) of the total time requirement toward your ATP, but it still is not logged as total time.

I concur. I logged it as sim time and counted it toward the 50hr class requirement on the 8710. There is a box for multi SIM. Do not log as multi engine flight time or total time. Fed was at my LOE and it raised no eyebrows.

tcco94 04-23-2017 08:33 PM

Level-D sim time can be counted towards total time. You'll be able to use 25 towards your ATP. All my sims from training were logged under multi, sim, total (as stated above)....but I needed them for the checkride.


https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/part-135/72080-does-sim-time-count-total-time.html

hotbreeze 04-24-2017 01:57 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2349517)
No, the answer is zero.

Sim time, which is logged as Sim time, can be used to reduce the actual flight time required to meet certain aeronautical experience requirements.

That does not mean it IS flight time, and certainly does not mean it gets logged as flight time.

Agreed. The 1,500 hours may be reduced up to 100 hours by Sim time. Was simply responding to the point that someone didn't know the maximum amount of sim time that could be counted in that reduction.


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