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Those are the biggest ALPA success stories? Why do certain people hang their perceived success of unions only on things that support their preconceived notions of unions? Can ALPA or any union do anything about corporate decisions like bankruptcies and the shutting down of companies? Of course not! Unions has been a success at places like Comair, xjt, RAH, horizon, and mesa, as well as air Wisconsin. If it wasn't for these unions that are derided by many here pilots there would be worse off than if there was no union. If you think that mesa pilots would've been better off dealing JO without a union, or RAH and Endeavor dealing with bankruptcy without a union, or xjt dealing with Skywest management without a union, then I don't know what to tell you. Pilot unions help pilots do better in good times for your company and help mitigate the bad times at your company. Those are both successes. Pilot unions work fairly well at BOTH regional and major airlines! But keep thinking that's not the case if it helps you sleep at night.


Not all regionals treat you worse. There are still a few which treat you well.

^^^ exactly. They forget that every single "good rule" we have comes from a CBA of another regional. Despite what Russ sells us, nothing is industry leading, and we weren't first to any of these things. At all.

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Well. I wouldn't say I see any reason to be disgruntled. Far from it. I'm quite happy to be at SKW. However, I do see an opportunity to make the place even better wasted.



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That's because management has SAPA out smarted in every situation.

Which really isn't saying much.....

Had an OO commuter drop a base opening date for ATL.

November 1

I would hope every ATL ASA pilot would walk off the job, and put in for Endeavor, if they pulled that garbage.

You realize a crap ton of xjt destinations in the southeast are already here right? South Carolina, Florida, Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, Tennessee and NC are all done by skw ATM. Over half the Detroit pairings go to ATL and fly there.

Not that I agree with it or condone it (for the millionth time), but it's just what inc wants. I hate to see it, but I'm not putting blinders on, it's real. And it's here already. Opening a base would save costs. The amount of deadheading is ridiculous

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Lots of non-Utards disgusted with the vote. The way it was presented, the absolute retardation of guys who wanted to vote yes on rumors they made up of growth that we could not staff even if we got it.
Literally they convinced themselves, because once again, they are raised without critical thinking skills, that they are in charge of making sure the company and their executives get record profits, or that as a "regional" you can't expect a reasonable wage.

I'm not usually positive person, but reading the last few pages of posts I kind of need to chime in. Skywest is a really good company, I've been here for 6 years, I drive to work, make about over 115k with just minimal amount of effort and basically get all the days off I need. I have friends at Mesa, Gojet, commutair, psa and expressjet and the stories I hear are pretty horrifying, even in the regional market that we live in. The pay package was BS, and it should not have passed, but you can blame that on all the junior guys. But who can blame them, they want to ride the quick upgrade train as well. People coming on here bashing OO have no idea what they're talking about.

My guess is junior guys and lifers. That 10% 401k match got just enough of the senior guys to pass it. Agree with everything else.