737 MAX - Safe or Unsafe?
03-14-2019 | 03:33 PM
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[QUOTE=Bwipilot;2782435],,,,Try to imagine being a low altitude and not knowing how to manually trim the airplane. If either of these crews had been able to do that, the airplanes would still have been flyable.......
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yeah...so easy.
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yeah...so easy.
03-14-2019 | 03:46 PM
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So your saying to keep operating the MAX in the interest of company profits and anti-bankruptcy ops. But when 30+ planes get grounded for improper MX or polar vortex ground 100+ planes....all is good.
Can’t imagine that your union contract won’t have you pay protected when you MAX flight is grounded. Quit worrying about profits through a grounding and worry about your passenger and families safety. You’re pay protected....are we pilots are all gaming for highest pay with lowest work?
Can’t imagine that your union contract won’t have you pay protected when you MAX flight is grounded. Quit worrying about profits through a grounding and worry about your passenger and families safety. You’re pay protected....are we pilots are all gaming for highest pay with lowest work?
good lord...i just answered the question, imo, people care aboiut company profits cause they work for the company.
frankly, i thought its pretty obvious.
i totally answered out of context. My fault.
03-14-2019 | 07:25 PM
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03-14-2019 | 08:24 PM
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Yeah, we all know how trimming works, except the moment "you put your thumb" off the yoke it starts trimming forward. You can't "relieve the pressure" because MCAS identifies high pitch (remember, one AOA vane is stuck, or broken) and will continue pitching forward unless either: you are trimming against it; the AP is engaged (it can't because two different conflicting AOA pitch information disable it); or the system is disabled by stab trim cutout switches. So you're down to flipping the switches. How often do we touch them? Should we run QRH or just flip them because it's the only option? How often do we flip switches without flows or checklists? It's really easy to say: they were bad/inexperienced pilots, I would have easily recovered, trimmed the airplane and wouldn't even break a sweat. Me, the real pilot, easy-peasy...
03-14-2019 | 09:05 PM
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03-15-2019 | 06:58 AM
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I wouldn't say .27°/second of nose down pitch is aggressive. We take off using 2-3° of nose up pitch per second and that is in no way aggressive.
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