Hiring 2022
11-06-2021, 11:08 AM
#21
Furloughed Again?!
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Boeing 737
Posts: 4,796
I don't know anything about the Air Force, but I do know that applying at only one carrier is costing you significant seniority at whatever carrier you ultimately end up working for.
Apply everywhere. They're all pretty much the same these days. You don't have a choice to make until someone offers you a class date.
Apply everywhere. They're all pretty much the same these days. You don't have a choice to make until someone offers you a class date.
11-06-2021, 05:18 PM
#22
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 60
Originally Posted by Tjodalv43
Hello everyone,
I was wondering if anyone knows of someone with an Air Force Commander Directed Downgrade as it relates to getting an interview. I’ve applied to the last couple windows but haven’t heard anything. I’ve had several friends with about the same experience level (meeting or exceeding all the time requirements and preferences, Air Force safety experience, current check pilot, etc) who applied after me and aren’t available for hiring immediately (I’m available now) that have already received invites. The only difference is I have a CDD from 6 years ago so I had to check yes on that box.
I was hoping all the good “yes” questions would outweigh that one, but at this point I’m starting to get discouraged. I also have only applied to SWA as it’s my #1 preference but am looking at expanding out based on the above discussion and not hearing anything. Anyone know of someone hired with a Q3 or CDD and if they had a similar experience?
I was wondering if anyone knows of someone with an Air Force Commander Directed Downgrade as it relates to getting an interview. I’ve applied to the last couple windows but haven’t heard anything. I’ve had several friends with about the same experience level (meeting or exceeding all the time requirements and preferences, Air Force safety experience, current check pilot, etc) who applied after me and aren’t available for hiring immediately (I’m available now) that have already received invites. The only difference is I have a CDD from 6 years ago so I had to check yes on that box.
I was hoping all the good “yes” questions would outweigh that one, but at this point I’m starting to get discouraged. I also have only applied to SWA as it’s my #1 preference but am looking at expanding out based on the above discussion and not hearing anything. Anyone know of someone hired with a Q3 or CDD and if they had a similar experience?
Otherwise I agree to open up your apps to other airlines. Best case it’s moot and you get a SWA interview first anyways, “worst” case you get a practice interview and get to wait X months for SWA on someone else’s seniority list instead of spending X months at home. And who knows, maybe you’ll like the someone else better anyways. Good luck!
11-07-2021, 03:29 AM
#23
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Posts: 6,613
Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
I don't know anything about the Air Force, but I do know that applying at only one carrier is costing you significant seniority at whatever carrier you ultimately end up working for.
Apply everywhere. They're all pretty much the same these days. You don't have a choice to make until someone offers you a class date.
Apply everywhere. They're all pretty much the same these days. You don't have a choice to make until someone offers you a class date.
11-07-2021, 04:14 AM
#24
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 751
Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Don’t know anything about the AF?! Son, you ARE in the AF now!
I think ive learned more military terms in the last 3 years than I did studying history for previous 20.
11-07-2021, 05:04 AM
#25
Furloughed Again?!
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Boeing 737
Posts: 4,796
Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Don’t know anything about the AF?! Son, you ARE in the AF now!
11-07-2021, 06:09 AM
#26
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 390
I wouldn’t worry too much about Q3s or CDD’s, especially ones that occurred 6 years ago. Having an opportunity to explain a “blemish“ where you learned something can actually be a plus during an interview, So long as it concludes with a positive outcome and that you learned from it. Interviewers aren't expecting everyone to be Roger ramjet perfect candidates.
With SW’s hiring prospects going forward, I suspect fogging a mirror with a wet ATP will qualify. Indefinitely stalled contract, narrow body pay, 10 year upgrades, Lubbock overnights, lost mojo, etc,, combined with very ambitious growth plans, I would imagine you’d be front of the line.
I agree with others that applying at all the majors is highly advisable.
With SW’s hiring prospects going forward, I suspect fogging a mirror with a wet ATP will qualify. Indefinitely stalled contract, narrow body pay, 10 year upgrades, Lubbock overnights, lost mojo, etc,, combined with very ambitious growth plans, I would imagine you’d be front of the line.
I agree with others that applying at all the majors is highly advisable.
11-07-2021, 08:42 AM
#27
Strike averted!
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: B737
Posts: 3,645
Yes, shotgun everything including FedEx. Interview at all that offer it. If you get hired at your third choice, you can always move if your first choice calls later (hopefully not too much later).
As for my military training, last trip I learned about the proper technique for entering the AO for CAS in an A-10, that the Hornet can really move its nose in a gunfight, and offset angles to try and evade missile lock. And also smash.
As for my military training, last trip I learned about the proper technique for entering the AO for CAS in an A-10, that the Hornet can really move its nose in a gunfight, and offset angles to try and evade missile lock. And also smash.
11-07-2021, 01:36 PM
#28
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,846
Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Don’t know anything about the AF?! Son, you ARE in the AF now!
11-08-2021, 01:02 PM
#30
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Posts: 6,613
Originally Posted by flyguy81
Flew with a dude a few weeks ago who asked where I lived and then asked me repeated questions about the Academy (That I didn't have a damn clue about because the USAFA wouldn't let me attend due to eyesight and my refusal to do anything other than fly planes). When he finally gave up and accepted that I was a RJ puke, I asked where he worked before here.....Air Force. So weird.....
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