Come to Southwest or not?
#21
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Jul 2019
Posts: 148
In reality he's 91K. He doesn't work pure 135.
There is a more substantial reason to stick it out at NJ vs XXY 135 operator. Well, lots of reasons. If he was 135 I would say its no question, make the move. But since he flies QS tails, he has a union, a contract, good healthcare, etc.
There is a more substantial reason to stick it out at NJ vs XXY 135 operator. Well, lots of reasons. If he was 135 I would say its no question, make the move. But since he flies QS tails, he has a union, a contract, good healthcare, etc.
our contract is pre-pandemic and outdated in many parts and management doesn’t want to budge or wants to give in too little.
health insurance undoubtedly is great but at what cost?
and yes we do 91K and 135.
#22
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Position: Gear slinger
Posts: 2,909
we have a Union that I give credit to but can be more aggressive.
our contract is pre-pandemic and outdated in many parts and management doesn’t want to budge or wants to give in too little.
health insurance undoubtedly is great but at what cost?
and yes we do 91K and 135.
our contract is pre-pandemic and outdated in many parts and management doesn’t want to budge or wants to give in too little.
health insurance undoubtedly is great but at what cost?
and yes we do 91K and 135.
#24
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 3,016
Poem about deciding on Southwest.
Hello everyone. I understand there are multiple threads and it is too time consuming going to look for specific answers. I have a Southwest class date in hand but I am in two minds as to whether I should come over or not. I fly for a good charter company even though our management and union are squabbling and am home based. I have not had an invite from UA or DL or AA hence why I applied here. I seem to be reading mixed sentiments about SWA so I would like to hear people's opinons.
A pilot sat with a heavy heart, Trying to decide where to start, His career was at a crossroads, And he had a choice to behold.
Southwest Airlines, a name renowned, A carrier with a culture unbound, A place where pilots were treated right, And their work was a source of pride.
But other options, he had to weigh, With higher pay and more holidays, The benefits were hard to ignore, But his heart wanted something more.
He dreamed of flying with a smile, And making passengers' trips worthwhile, Of being part of a team so bright, Where safety and fun go hand in hand, alright!
He thought of Southwest's heart and soul, The LUV they spread, making others whole, And how they treated employees so well, Like family, not just a number to tell.
So, with a deep breath, he made his choice, He decided to join Southwest's voice, To be part of a team that made him glad, And together, make flying not just a job but a journey, rad!
For he knew that in Southwest Airlines, He'd find his wings and soar to new heights, And he'd be proud to call it his home, A place where pilots could truly roam
#25
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Jul 2019
Posts: 148
I can’t offer an opinion but I can offer my wisdom through a poem written my ChatGPT. I asked it to write a poem for a pilot deciding to come to Southwest and this is what it said;
A pilot sat with a heavy heart, Trying to decide where to start, His career was at a crossroads, And he had a choice to behold.
Southwest Airlines, a name renowned, A carrier with a culture unbound, A place where pilots were treated right, And their work was a source of pride.
But other options, he had to weigh, With higher pay and more holidays, The benefits were hard to ignore, But his heart wanted something more.
He dreamed of flying with a smile, And making passengers' trips worthwhile, Of being part of a team so bright, Where safety and fun go hand in hand, alright!
He thought of Southwest's heart and soul, The LUV they spread, making others whole, And how they treated employees so well, Like family, not just a number to tell.
So, with a deep breath, he made his choice, He decided to join Southwest's voice, To be part of a team that made him glad, And together, make flying not just a job but a journey, rad!
For he knew that in Southwest Airlines, He'd find his wings and soar to new heights, And he'd be proud to call it his home, A place where pilots could truly roam
A pilot sat with a heavy heart, Trying to decide where to start, His career was at a crossroads, And he had a choice to behold.
Southwest Airlines, a name renowned, A carrier with a culture unbound, A place where pilots were treated right, And their work was a source of pride.
But other options, he had to weigh, With higher pay and more holidays, The benefits were hard to ignore, But his heart wanted something more.
He dreamed of flying with a smile, And making passengers' trips worthwhile, Of being part of a team so bright, Where safety and fun go hand in hand, alright!
He thought of Southwest's heart and soul, The LUV they spread, making others whole, And how they treated employees so well, Like family, not just a number to tell.
So, with a deep breath, he made his choice, He decided to join Southwest's voice, To be part of a team that made him glad, And together, make flying not just a job but a journey, rad!
For he knew that in Southwest Airlines, He'd find his wings and soar to new heights, And he'd be proud to call it his home, A place where pilots could truly roam
Picked a class date finally and looking forward to the next chapter of my life and career!
#26
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 89
#27
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2020
Posts: 1,770
SWA pilots are getting calls for interviews from legacies within 30 days of applying/updating their application with SWA in some cases. Longest I’ve heard of in recent history was 7 months. Average seems to be about 90 days. If you’re serious about going to the legacies and aren’t getting called, go to SWA as a stepping stone and if you end up falling in love with it, stay.
#29
#30
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Jul 2019
Posts: 148
lol stranger things have happened
jokes aside no, I made my decision based on how my last three tours have gone and how our negotiations are stagnant.
I have literally flown fatigued, aggravated and been kept at the hotel to the last second for nothing when I could have been home early on go home day.
Throw in the bs hot spare from 10pm to 2am or 8pm to midnight and that’ll do it. I despised getting into uniform and going out to the plane to keep it ready “in case there is a flight” or “you’re backing up flights” then sitting and rotting in the FBO for hours only to go back to the hotel right after. Sure I got 3 hours “flight time” but those three hours really only count after you’ve already had 10 hours of flying.
it also took my wife and mentor to knock some sense into me and saying “this is what you have worked for, don’t let this opportunity pass” in a nutshell.
If a legacy calls, I’ll cross that bridge when I get to it, and if I can have a great and happy career at SWA then so be it I’ll stay.
side note, never liked Dumb & Dumber. I am more a Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau fan.
jokes aside no, I made my decision based on how my last three tours have gone and how our negotiations are stagnant.
I have literally flown fatigued, aggravated and been kept at the hotel to the last second for nothing when I could have been home early on go home day.
Throw in the bs hot spare from 10pm to 2am or 8pm to midnight and that’ll do it. I despised getting into uniform and going out to the plane to keep it ready “in case there is a flight” or “you’re backing up flights” then sitting and rotting in the FBO for hours only to go back to the hotel right after. Sure I got 3 hours “flight time” but those three hours really only count after you’ve already had 10 hours of flying.
it also took my wife and mentor to knock some sense into me and saying “this is what you have worked for, don’t let this opportunity pass” in a nutshell.
If a legacy calls, I’ll cross that bridge when I get to it, and if I can have a great and happy career at SWA then so be it I’ll stay.
side note, never liked Dumb & Dumber. I am more a Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau fan.
Last edited by IDriveJets; 03-30-2023 at 04:46 AM.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post