JetBlue looking to merge
04-09-2026 | 09:35 AM
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As far as less pay for fewer seat- will the C suite take a payout as they are now managing smaller aircraft?
Will the mechanics of FAs? below the wing? Ops and gate agents? NO.
So why is it that the pilots are the only ones tied to seats? If that aircraft allows the company to make more money then we should get a cut. The liability is the same, the risk is the same. If a 100 seat aircraft goes down it'll be the same exposure to the company as if 137 seat aircraft crashes. Pilots prevent that from happening. Mechanics also. So neither should gt a pay cut.
thats my opinion.
Will the mechanics of FAs? below the wing? Ops and gate agents? NO.
So why is it that the pilots are the only ones tied to seats? If that aircraft allows the company to make more money then we should get a cut. The liability is the same, the risk is the same. If a 100 seat aircraft goes down it'll be the same exposure to the company as if 137 seat aircraft crashes. Pilots prevent that from happening. Mechanics also. So neither should gt a pay cut.
thats my opinion.
04-09-2026 | 09:57 AM
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04-09-2026 | 11:33 AM
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If they're going to add wide bodies or RJs, it's going to require an un-blending of the 737 rate as well, I think.
04-09-2026 | 11:58 AM
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if you bring that much value, ie liabilty control, to the situation then sure.
you think if you flew Elon Musk around in a 172 he'd only pay you $20/ hr?
If you make a company a lot of money or reduce their liabilities by a lot of money you should get paid a lot of money,
not just based on seats.
Not everyone is equal and not all airlines are run equally. Also you get what you negotiated.
you think if you flew Elon Musk around in a 172 he'd only pay you $20/ hr?
If you make a company a lot of money or reduce their liabilities by a lot of money you should get paid a lot of money,
not just based on seats.
Not everyone is equal and not all airlines are run equally. Also you get what you negotiated.
04-09-2026 | 06:04 PM
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Yeah sorry, didn’t mean to say that pay was based purely off of seats. Clearly it is not that way at other carriers. I just mean that different equipment is going to pay different rates. Anyone who doesn’t think that is living in a fantasy land. Were we not the highest paid 737 operators, I may feel differently. If you have one pay rate for every airplane, someone is getting screwed. I think it’s awesome that UPS does it, but that’s a whole different ball of wax. They are all paid really well. Pax airlines don’t work under the same premise.
04-09-2026 | 07:16 PM
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Yeah sorry, didn’t mean to say that pay was based purely off of seats. Clearly it is not that way at other carriers. I just mean that different equipment is going to pay different rates. Anyone who doesn’t think that is living in a fantasy land. Were we not the highest paid 737 operators, I may feel differently. If you have one pay rate for every airplane, someone is getting screwed. I think it’s awesome that UPS does it, but that’s a whole different ball of wax. They are all paid really well. Pax airlines don’t work under the same premise.
04-10-2026 | 05:16 AM
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youre right tho it's just a mental exercise. But the real gymnastics will be when the union convinces us we should give away our scope for helping the company grow and the company promises to take care of us this next contract. But for reals this time. Pinky promise
04-10-2026 | 05:18 AM
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Agree about the podcast. Clearly something is in the works and has been for a while. Obviously there is no huge rush on finishing the negotiation either, which makes me think it's an aircraft order or true long haul flying in the Max.
Controversial, but I don't think a 100 seat aircraft must pay the same as a 137-175 seat aircraft if it means that SWA pilots now get to fly those airplanes and they are true seniority list growth. Sorry, I just don't, mostly for economic reasons. I think that anyone who sticks to that fantasy in their brain as a non starter is going to have issues. The rest of the industry feels the same way.
We will see where this all ends up. I think the company has big plans to continue segmenting the cabin and offering more things that people want to give SWA their money for. Time will definitely tell. The lounges, FA uniform change, etc all points to a more slightly upscale product than what we have been offering.
Controversial, but I don't think a 100 seat aircraft must pay the same as a 137-175 seat aircraft if it means that SWA pilots now get to fly those airplanes and they are true seniority list growth. Sorry, I just don't, mostly for economic reasons. I think that anyone who sticks to that fantasy in their brain as a non starter is going to have issues. The rest of the industry feels the same way.
We will see where this all ends up. I think the company has big plans to continue segmenting the cabin and offering more things that people want to give SWA their money for. Time will definitely tell. The lounges, FA uniform change, etc all points to a more slightly upscale product than what we have been offering.
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