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Old 03-22-2013, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
volaris flies from gdl-mdw...
If anybody could get out of customs it would be SWA. Maybe there is an exemption for them
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Old 03-22-2013, 07:33 PM
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I did a cursory check, and while it is an international airport in NAME, I could find no result for a search for customs, immigrations or international arrivals. I guess one could depart to a foreign destination, but I could find no evidence that one could arrive from one.
after digging a bit CBP doesnt seem to have a list of locations. (only one of possible entry points)

however -
airtran flies to cancun, montego bay and punta cana. (last two are seasonal)
Volaris: Guadalajara, León/El Bajío, Mexico City, Morelia, Zacatecas
Porter: Toronto-Billy Bishop

looks like none of these places have pre-clearance
Preclearance Locations - CBP.gov
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:51 PM
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the SWA naysayers will say gloom and doom. and thats fine, hey, this isn't the Soviet Union we can all have an opinion. back to regular programming, here is the Midway info

Service Port - Chicago

Facilities And Crossings
Name: Deferred Inspection Site
Phone: (312) 834-0908
Operational Hours: 8:00 AM-2:00 PM(Central)
Monday
8:00 AM-2:00 PM(Central)
Tuesday
8:00 AM-2:00 PM(Central)
Wednesday
8:00 AM-2:00 PM(Central)
Thursday

Name: Foreign Mail Unit
Phone: (773) 462-9477
Operational Hours: 8:00 AM-4:30 PM(Central)
Weekdays (Monday-Friday)

Name: Midway International Airport
Phone: (773) 948-6330
Fax: (773) 948-6325
Operational Hours: 6:00 AM-10:00 PM(Central)
Weekdays (Monday-Friday)
6:00 AM-8:00 PM(Central)
Saturday
5:30 PM-9:30 PM(Central)
Sunday

Name: O'Hare International Arrivals Building - T5
Phone: (773) 894-2900
Operational Hours: 8:00 AM-10:00 PM(Central)
Seven Days A Week (7)
As someone else mentioned, Volaris flies southbound out of Midway

Volaris #945

The also fly northbound into Midway

Volaris #944

Now again, some folks on this board claim that CBP doesn't work at Midway and/or CBP will never in the history of the universe ever work at Midway, etc. And thats fine.

But the facts are that it is possible, it is do-able, and Volaris (a SWA partner) is doing it. So Volaris, a well run airline, backed by Carlos Slim, the worlds richest person, has the access and contacts already in place. Senor Slim, Mr Worlds Billionaire, Gary Kelly here, yeah I need a hand with my Midway to Cancun route, didn't you FUND the new Mexican President's campaign. Gee so maybe you can facilitate this ? Golly gee Mr Slim I am sure glad you and I are partners.

Mr Obama, hello Gary Kelly here, say you are the President, gee, aren't you a Chicago guy ? The thing is we want to offer additional routes into Midway, and create some jobs for hard working Chicagoans. Can you facilitate this Cancun to Midway thing ? Oh, your head of DOT is another Chicago guy ? Man thank you so much Mr Obama have a great day.

That's how deals are done, and made, in the world, everyday.

Guys, never say never, and never stop dreaming.

Have a great day
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Bush Pilot View Post
I think you meant to say "captain and FO seats" and it should have been posted on the Delta Hiring thread.

BTW- you're welcome for the career position you couldn't obtain through the front door and the RSW seniority. You'll have to send your thank you's to:

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Wow. This post should be a candidate for the "Tool of the Day" thread. I've checked the other 19 posts you've made here, and they are all consistently tool-ish.

Just be advised, there are a LOT of Airtran pilots whose resumes will compare quite favorably with guys/gals at SWA.
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Just be advised, there are a LOT of Airtran pilots whose resumes will compare quite favorably with guys/gals at SWA.
My guess would me MOST if not all.
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Just be advised, there are a LOT of Airtran pilots whose resumes will compare quite favorably with guys/gals at SWA.
Moot point.

But don't worry-You'll have numerous opportunities to share yours with the kernal. He loves to share his so make sure to bring extra copies.

Wow. This post should be a candidate for the "Tool of the Day" thread. I've checked the other 19 posts you've made here, and they are all consistently tool-ish.
Are they as "toolish" as this one?

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/909446-post16.html

I'm surprised that after that enormous amount of military a$$ki$$ing you never got hired at SWA. Prolly weren't a "good $hit" in the "Unit". Can you say unit more?

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Old 03-26-2013, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by stage5 View Post
after digging a bit CBP doesnt seem to have a list of locations. (only one of possible entry points)

however -
airtran flies to cancun, montego bay and punta cana. (last two are seasonal)
Volaris: Guadalajara, León/El Bajío, Mexico City, Morelia, Zacatecas
Porter: Toronto-Billy Bishop

looks like none of these places have pre-clearance
Preclearance Locations - CBP.gov
Interesting. If they have one flight a day, then CBP might come over to handle those flights only. I haven't been to MDW in years, so I have no idea of what the sterile area setup is there (maybe they go to a remote gate or something?) but I am sure CBP won't allow the incoming international passengers to mix with domestic passengers before being cleared. Still though, if all those flights operate daily, that would mean that CBP would have to set up 9 times each day, and that would be expensive.. I wonder since Armageddon has hit us with the sequester if this will continue. Any AirTran guys care to contribute?
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Moot point.

But don't worry-You'll have numerous opportunities to share yours with the kernal. He loves to share his so make sure to bring extra copies.



Are they as "toolish" as this one?

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/909446-post16.html

I'm surprised that after that enormous amount of military a$$ki$$ing you never got hired at SWA. Prolly weren't a "good $hit" in the "Unit". Can you say unit more?
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Originally Posted by Bush Pilot View Post
Are they as "toolish" as this one?

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/909446-post16.html

I'm surprised that after that enormous amount of military a$$ki$$ing you never got hired at SWA. Prolly weren't a "good $hit" in the "Unit". Can you say unit more?
Huh. I thought the advice was solid, telling someone to join a unit and work hard in order to have a good chance of getting an SUPT slot. Squadrons are leary about hiring off the street for SUPT, but they feel better about giving an SUPT slot to a guy/gal who has been in the unit a while and whom they know. Although, I also advised the individual to seek other opinions as well, because I certainly do not know it all.

Full disclosure: I applied for SWA (along with every other airline that was accepting applications) in the summer-fall of 2007. I retired in Feb 2008 [worst ... timing ... EVER!!! ]; interviewed with JetBlue and Airtran, hired by both. All other airlines stopped hiring because of the economy, and JetBlue and Airtran both placed me in the "pool", so I had to find something else to do for a couple years.

By the time the airlines started hiring again I no longer had the recency of experience needed to apply; fortunately, I was still in the pool at JetBlue and Airtran.

I took a job at FlightSafety -- I could tell when I was interviewing that they were concerned that I would leave as soon as the airlines stated hiring, so I told the Center Director I would stay for at least 16-18 months so that they could get a reasonable return from me and I could have time to evaluate FSI. He seemed satisfied with my commitment to them and hired me ...... and then JetBlue called 5 months later, right after I had spent the previous 4 1/2 months in Dallas (not the center I would be working at) in a hotel room FSI paid for getting fully trained as a ground and sim instructor along with FAA check airman certification.

I told JetBlue "no" -- the Kharma gods would have struck me dead if I left after 5 months when I told FSI 16-18 months minimum. Fortunately, Airtran called right at the 18 month point, so I went to training in Feb 2010, two years after AF retirement.

So, yup, I guess that makes me a tool! Guess I'll have to work on that.

Meanwhile .... looking forward to working with most of my fellow SWA employees. So far, I have not met anyone from SWA who hasn't been kind and gracious, and for that I am thankful.
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Originally Posted by Marvin View Post

Meanwhile .... looking forward to working with most of my fellow SWA employees. So far, I have not met anyone from SWA who hasn't been kind and gracious, and for that I am thankful.
Then you've obviously never met Bush Pilot live and in the flesh. Just a hunch given the garbage that he spews:

"You're welcome for the Cptn seats."

I think you meant to say "captain and FO seats" and it should have been posted on the Delta Hiring thread.

BTW- you're welcome for the career position you couldn't obtain through the front door and the RSW seniority. You'll have to send your thank you's to:

Mr. Gary Kelly

c/o of SWAPA Negotiating Committee
1450 Empire Central
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Dallas, TX 75247
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