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01-13-2018 | 05:45 PM
#101
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Sure, I really wanted LTD, Solid Scope, Trip Rigs, 4 days off, DC and can live with $2xx/hr considering I was at $13x.xx.
Its called negotiating, I didnt expect to get everything I wanted.
To each their own. I respect those that vote no as long as they throroughly go through the ENTIRE thing, as I will before I vote Yes.
Its called negotiating, I didnt expect to get everything I wanted.
To each their own. I respect those that vote no as long as they throroughly go through the ENTIRE thing, as I will before I vote Yes.
01-13-2018 | 05:49 PM
#102
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Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 3,760
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From: 1900D CA
Frontier pilot here. I have a question.
I'm reading the language on the PBS section, and it says "industry standard rig package with PBS including 5 hour minimum duty period average." I don't understand what that means? That's not a 5 hour credit min day? Or is it?
I'm reading the language on the PBS section, and it says "industry standard rig package with PBS including 5 hour minimum duty period average." I don't understand what that means? That's not a 5 hour credit min day? Or is it?
01-13-2018 | 05:54 PM
#104
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Joined: Mar 2014
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Duty period avg is what AA currently has. It sucks for the junior guys. You do a redeye day one and make 5:10 min that day. Second day is "off" in a hotel, third day you do the transcon back at 5:10 (or block) making a three day worth 10-11 hours of pay. Junior line holders work 18-19 days for mid 70's in credit.
01-13-2018 | 05:54 PM
#105
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Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 307
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From: A320HD
Sure, I really wanted LTD, Solid Scope, Trip Rigs, 4 days off, DC and can live with $2xx/hr considering I was at $13x.xx.
Its called negotiating, I didnt expect to get everything I wanted.
To each their own. I respect those that vote no as long as they throroughly go through the ENTIRE thing, as I will before I vote Yes.
Its called negotiating, I didnt expect to get everything I wanted.
To each their own. I respect those that vote no as long as they throroughly go through the ENTIRE thing, as I will before I vote Yes.
01-13-2018 | 05:56 PM
#106
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Joined: Jul 2007
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From: A320HD
I never voted down a union, and I don't clean planes. I can only assume you are refering to our group as a whole. Those days are long gone for most of us. All I can say is I didn't come over here to insult you, or your group. We dont have scope, you are correct. Scope is everything, when a company can outsource. How much of your flying could spirit cover at lower rates than yours?
I would vote no if this were presented to me. I would strike, (and will probably have to) especially in this environment. If you want to take substandard pay, while your company is raking in profits and having staffing issues that is up to you. Just realize that you effect the entire industry by accepting it.
I would vote no if this were presented to me. I would strike, (and will probably have to) especially in this environment. If you want to take substandard pay, while your company is raking in profits and having staffing issues that is up to you. Just realize that you effect the entire industry by accepting it.
01-13-2018 | 05:59 PM
#107
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Joined: Nov 2012
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From: 1900D CA
Duty period avg is what AA currently has. It sucks for the junior guys. You do a redeye day one and make 5:10 min that day. Second day is "off" in a hotel, third day you do the transcon back at 5:10 (or block) making a three day worth 10-11 hours of pay. Junior line holders work 18-19 days for mid 70's in credit.
01-13-2018 | 06:00 PM
#108
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01-13-2018 | 06:04 PM
#110
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Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 176
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From: A320 F.O.
I never voted down a union, and I don't clean planes. I can only assume you are refering to our group as a whole. Those days are long gone for most of us. All I can say is I didn't come over here to insult you, or your group. We dont have scope, you are correct. Scope is everything, when a company can outsource. How much of your flying could spirit cover at lower rates than yours?
I would vote no if this were presented to me. I would strike, (and will probably have to) especially in this environment. If you want to take substandard pay, while your company is raking in profits and having staffing issues that is up to you. Just realize that you effect the entire industry by accepting it.
I would vote no if this were presented to me. I would strike, (and will probably have to) especially in this environment. If you want to take substandard pay, while your company is raking in profits and having staffing issues that is up to you. Just realize that you effect the entire industry by accepting it.
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