Lines are getting worse
#31
pbs should be an improvement over our current situation considering the improved rigs that will kick in with pbs implementation. Most of the lines in las this month were 13/14 days off. Some of them were in the 85-90 credit range but a lot were around 74-76 credit. That’s pretty horrendous. I really don’t understand the obsession with line bidding. It’s archaic and pretty much pointless now that transition conflict is gone.
#32
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From: B-767 FO
PBS should be an improvement over our current situation considering the improved rigs that will kick in with PBS implementation. Most of the lines in LAS this month were 13/14 days off. Some of them were in the 85-90 credit range but a lot were around 74-76 credit. That’s pretty horrendous. I really don’t understand the obsession with line bidding. It’s archaic and pretty much pointless now that transition conflict is gone.
#33
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I was simply disputing the suggestion that somehow we would be even worse off under PBS than we are now under line bidding. The point is, now that transition conflict is gone, PBS with the improved rigs should result in superior schedules than the garbage lines we are used to seeing around here.
#34
garbage in, garbage out, if the pairings are garbage, the pbs built lines will be garbage. 20hr min 4 day x 4 is 80 hour 14 days off(30day month). 27hr 4day x 3 is 81 hr line with 18 days off(30 day month). I dont expect to see many 4 days over 20-21 hours
#35
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At the 3.5 trip rig a line that only credits 20 hours is 70ish hours TAFB. I doubt that is or will be the majority of your 4-days.
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PBS should be an improvement over our current situation considering the improved rigs that will kick in with PBS implementation. Most of the lines in LAS this month were 13/14 days off. Some of them were in the 85-90 credit range but a lot were around 74-76 credit. That’s pretty horrendous. I really don’t understand the obsession with line bidding. It’s archaic and pretty much pointless now that transition conflict is gone.
#37
P.S. BKbigfish... LOVE the name!
#38
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#39
It should be noted that relief line builds are done by actual people where PBS is all computerized. Also PBS is not a "line bidding system" it arranges an assortment of pairings based on the parameters you set.
#40
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From: Aircraft & Seat: old & hard
Maybe I should have said pairings are getting worse, because that is definitely a huge part of it. For instance, there seemed to be many more 18 hr 4 days because of long layover.
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