sailingfun

Nav Blue does not build lines to the max credit allowed. The administrator sets a threshold value and the system tries to construct a line close to that value. How that threshold is set would be determined by your workrules and the companies needs. As a example if a category is well manned they will normally set the threshold as low as contractually allowed. It’s cheaper than paying a bunch of reserves to sit home unused all month.

Left Handed

I was told by the trainers you can only submit 200 lines.

Super EZ E

WHAT? I guess you have no idea how math works. The Res pilot is paid regardless if he/she works. Zero cost saving making them work and not having a ready pilot to cover issues.

The issue of not building a max credit is a flaw that causes unstacking. The Union claimed we would not be subject to unstacking. When I used PBS before it was coded "high time" 90hrs. I bid 68 to 72 min every month. The question is the command "set min" and "set max"? What are the values and will this trip unstacking to crate some degree of balance that has nothing to do with seniority. Why do we not have a manual that defines all values and commands??

elmetal

Stop with the unstacking boogeyman. Unstacking is nothing more than bein g too jr to hold a day off.

Right now with hardlines go look and count how many lines had christmas off. that's the same thing that will be with navblue. If you cannot hold the line with christmas off, you're too junior. Unstacking is NOT the same as a globalized PBS system of going from bottom up and awarding uncovered trips. STOP.

Unstacking simply means: We will have too many uncovered trips on day x if we don't make you work on this day. AKA YOU ARE TOO JUNIOR TO HOLD IT OFF.



It will still try to honor every single one of your preferences EVEN ON AN UNSTACK.

Dear lord. I Bet you have used AOS or Flica PBS in the past. This is not that.

as for the other commenter, I never once said Navblue will go to build highest credit lines. I said it defaults to high credit as in the following:

You bid award pairings if pairing number is C4020, C4032

If both pairings are available, it will give you the highest credit of the two.

(not to get into shuffling and all the things that happen later, but that is how it originally chooses)

symbian simian

Well.....

Reserves are paid regardless, but hardlines don't have a set guarantee anymore. If there is 7,000 hours of flying to be covered, there are 100 pilots in a position, and the company keeps 10% of pilots on reserve. All pilots make $200/hr. Hardlines would be build to 78 hours average. Or the company could build lines to 72 hours, and make the already paid reserve pilots work 60 hours plus all the unanticipated flying. If that works without having to hand out JAs, because of lack of reserves, the company would save $108,000.

elmetal

Except that doesn't really work here because of red/green. They'll keep the staffing at the bare min for red/green which is actually not as thin as people coming from the regionals think when you say "thin staffing"


so while they will for sure do what you mention to an extent, there is a break even point whereby they have to artificially raise staffing to meet the nicolau award red/green numbers, at which point they're doing a disservice to themselves.

symbian simian

You are correct, I was making a general point that if you are on PBS without a set guarantee, the company can save money by making reserves work. At NK less so, because there are set limits on the amount of open time they can keep out of line building to later assign to reserves.

elmetal

agreed....

Qotsaautopilot

Who said we don’t have a 72hr guarantee?

4.A

WhiteMorpheus

Will your PBS build hybrid lines? If so, then to make sure you get a full 72 credit line OR a full reserve line it sounds like you'd need a bid preference that states that, otherwise it could build you a 60hr hybrid line with some really crappy trips and the balance in reserve days.

It doesn't sound like many would want to skip a hybrid line if they could have one based on what I know o your new reserve rules.