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Old 06-15-2023 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Are you only allowed to criticize the president of the US unless you have run for president yourself? Typical weak argument.
This is a little different, because you can actually volunteer and have some say in the outcome.
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Old 06-15-2023 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Are you only allowed to criticize the president of the US unless you have run for president yourself? Typical weak argument.
Actually your argument is a bit weak. I'm sure a lot of people would like to be president, yet lets be realistic. Not very attainable by most. However, many union positions have come open with only one person running. I think your odds are a bit better. But then again......you are you!
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Old 06-15-2023 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
But a pointless email saying “yea we are mad” doesn’t do anything. The same MEC that sounded like used car salesmen speaking like they were representing management and not us during the last TA.
It says way more than "yea we are mad." Read the email again. It's basically the union telling pilots on property to leave for a better company, and prospective new hires to reconsider. I don't think they are allowed to say it directly, but "sends an ominous message to our current and prospective pilots and simplifies the analysis for pilots who are considering a career here. " is a pretty obvious intent.

Personally, I love it. And I am/was an outspoken critic of TA '23 and the "salesmen" approach that you describe. But credit where it's due.
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Old 06-15-2023 | 11:55 AM
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When’s the next attrition email due to come out now that it’s quarterly?

also, I’m not a smart dude but I didn’t see a reply button to post this had to quote the guy above me and delete it to post this am I missing something?
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Old 06-15-2023 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Are you only allowed to criticize the president of the US unless you have run for president yourself? Typical weak argument.
so, nothing? Your answer is that you’re doing nothing?
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Old 06-15-2023 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Are you only allowed to criticize the president of the US unless you have run for president yourself? Typical weak argument.
I’d argue that getting involved can be as simple as writing your reps and expressing your POV. Though the best way to change city hall is to be part of city hall.
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Old 06-15-2023 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Sounds like you are the one that’s mad my friend. But a pointless email saying “yea we are mad” doesn’t do anything. The same MEC that sounded like used car salesmen speaking like they were representing management and not us during the last TA.
Dude you are so off base here, it's not even funny. The email specifically stated there is a formal grievance that has been filed on the matter. They're letting us know that they find the company's actions are completely unacceptable and they ARE trying to do something about it. That's the process. What else would you like to see, exactly?

...and as far as our MEC sounding like used car salesman, well, ya know, that's just like.. your opinion, man.
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Old 06-15-2023 | 01:59 PM
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Dude you are so off base here, it's not even funny. The email specifically stated there is a formal grievance that has been filed on the matter. They're letting us know that they find the company's actions are completely unacceptable and they ARE trying to do something about it. That's the process. What else would you like to see, exactly?

...and as far as our MEC sounding like used car salesman, well, ya know, that's just like.. your opinion, man.
Idk everyone I fly with were saying the same thing. They never even heard that sort of rhetoric at the regionals before. But this MEC worship is why we will forever be in last place. We desperately need to pull a UA and start over. Unless you think you shouldn't be allowed to vote for a recall unless you've "served". I'm sure all 13,000 UA pilots that voted for it definitely did lmao.
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Old 06-15-2023 | 02:01 PM
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so, nothing? Your answer is that you’re doing nothing?
Doesn't really answer my question but sure thing butter cup.
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Old 06-15-2023 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Idk everyone I fly with were saying the same thing. They never even heard that sort of rhetoric at the regionals before. But this MEC worship is why we will forever be in last place. We desperately need to pull a UA and start over. Unless you think you shouldn't be allowed to vote for a recall unless you've "served". I'm sure all 13,000 UA pilots that voted for it definitely did lmao.
Again, what exactly would you like to see different in this case?

"Everyone" you're flying with says the same thing, huh? It's amazing, just about 7 out of every 10 voted yes to our CBA, but somehow you can't find a single one on the line. Weird.
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