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06-27-2022 | 12:25 PM

#1621

JulesWinfield

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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo

Well said. Time to move on and realize the uphill battle we will have against F9 management. Stomp the earth, yell at the heavens, but time to move on come the 30th.

I can’t imagine why anyone would vote yes for a subpar contract.

06-27-2022 | 12:29 PM

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DrSteveBrule

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From: A320 For Your Health

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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo

Well said. Time to move on and realize the uphill battle we will have against F9 management. Stomp the earth, yell at the heavens, but time to move on come the 30th.

Biffnuts essentially said today 'no raises, fast upgrades are all we can offer.'

06-27-2022 | 12:49 PM

#1623

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Originally Posted by DrSteveBrule

Biffnuts essentially said today 'no raises, fast upgrades are all we can offer.'

Fast upgrades my ass. Almost every legacy has faster upgrades then us.

06-27-2022 | 12:53 PM

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CincoDeMayo

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Originally Posted by DrSteveBrule

Biffnuts essentially said today 'no raises, fast upgrades are all we can offer.'

Exactly my point, it’s going to be war. So Bif says no money and we say “oh well!” F That. This is what I don’t think people understand, it’s a war with these guys. Stop with the “whoa is me,” and get your heads straight.

He can say whatever he wants, if our choice to believe him or fight him. He needs a JCBA for his plans, that doesn’t change.

06-27-2022 | 01:08 PM

#1625

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From: 60’s Tech, Right

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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo

Based on the comments of some who think the United TA is a “pretty sweet deal” I dearly hope our respective NCs wouldn’t be stupid enough to float a sub-par proposal…. Too many short-sighted people will likely vote yes, locking us in at the bottom.

06-27-2022 | 01:14 PM

#1626

DrSteveBrule

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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo

I agree. I am getting the idea that management intends to make the ulcc model the new bottom-feeding airline, supplanting the regionals in the pilot hierarchy. If this visa bs works out for them, they will want mid-seniority captains to leave for the legacies to preserve their precious 'juniority' and restore their upgrade times. From that standpoint alone, i hope jetblue wins.

06-27-2022 | 01:30 PM

#1627

CincoDeMayo

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Very valid concern.

06-27-2022 | 01:33 PM

#1628

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Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator

Fast upgrades my ass. Almost every legacy has faster upgrades then us.

He can also offer opening and closing bases pretty fast. Everyone likes that!

06-27-2022 | 01:37 PM

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Excargodog

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The need for a JCBA might be the very thing that allows NK - of all pilot groups - the ability to push the pattern bargaining even from our end. If management really values all these ‘synergies’ they damn well ought to be willing to pay for them.

06-27-2022 | 01:45 PM

#1630

IWalkJun12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo

Well said. Time to move on and realize the uphill battle we will have against F9 management. Stomp the earth, yell at the heavens, but time to move on come the 30th.

let’s roll