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Old 06-09-2022, 10:46 AM
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Old 06-09-2022, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Force One View Post
Funny, I'm NK DTW based and worried about it closing. In all available scenarios. (B6, F9, Independent) They're already trying to reduce it by 1/3.

But you'd knock me down a number, so not sure we can be friends. (sarcasm)
Ha! Maybe the SLI fences off bases for a while. Hope not but we shall see. B6 is trying to expand into the midwest and away from being a fly over airline. I don't think DTW closes, at least for a while.
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Old 06-09-2022, 11:35 AM
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In Light of the union email wanting to open up section 6 immediately .. I think it wound be funny and lucrative if our management, if and when it looks like JetBlue would be the victor… to immediately up our pay to delta + $15 across the board with let’s say a 18% DC…

Our management to Robin .. “ you want us, you fought this hard, here.. it’s yours. Along with the highest paid narrow body pilots around.. you pay that tab”

If our management won’t be around to pay that price tag.. leave it in B6s lap. And of course their pilots would wanna snap up to our pay while we negotiate an entire new JCBA.. they leave behind an expensive tab for someone else to pay
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Old 06-09-2022, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Force One View Post
Funny, I'm NK DTW based and worried about it closing. In all available scenarios. (B6, F9, Independent) They're already trying to reduce it by 1/3.

But you'd knock me down a number, so not sure we can be friends. (sarcasm)
Food for thought :

NK has been slowly reducing flights out of the hubs that they are now trying to displace us out of. Theoretically, the JB business model should restore us to growing some of these big hubs that legacies compete directly with us. Spirit has said they were looking for ways to not have to compete with the legacies where margins would be lower and simply operate routes with less competition. Makes since. But that's because Spirit cannot compete with legacies when they match us closely on price. People who fly a legacy generally don't fly Spirit. I suspect JB will go directly at the legacies as they do already and will expand our operations in DFW, DTW, and ORD.
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Old 06-09-2022, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 69fastback View Post
As someone who has just silently been reading this thread, and following along, he definitely seems to meet the criteria for being a tool.

all the b6 juicers are typically tools. They think they are mainline of some sort.
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Old 06-09-2022, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 8JRMfortheyear View Post
all the b6 juicers are typically tools. They think they are mainline of some sort.
Well, haven't been called a juicer at JB in a decade. I'm almost universally considered too "hardline pilot" when it comes to JB vs pilot stuff. But go on, tell me more.
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Old 06-09-2022, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 8JRMfortheyear View Post
all the b6 juicers are typically tools. They think they are mainline of some sort.
You sound like you’re new to the industry? Do you know what the term “mainline” means? It refers to the main operating portion of an airline, as opposed to its regional counterpart. For some odd reason, some RJ guys (and apparently you) sometimes refer to the big 3 as mainline, but they are only “mainline” as it relates to their particular overall operation. For example, if you fly on a United flight, it would be proper to say you were on a “mainline” United flight. Or perhaps even if you were at a wholly owned regional, saying you want to work for “mainline” would be properly understood as the mainline owner of that carrier in that context. But using “mainline” to describe the big 3 legacy carriers is dumb. And trying to insult jetblue pilots by saying they think they are “mainline” makes you sound kind of ignorant (to put it nicely). Unless of course you’re playing into the internal joke of the Airbus being jetblue mainline and the 190s being jetblue express. But I suspect that isn’t the case.
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Old 06-09-2022, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyGuy2002 View Post
In Light of the union email wanting to open up section 6 immediately .. I think it wound be funny and lucrative if our management, if and when it looks like JetBlue would be the victor… to immediately up our pay to delta + $15 across the board with let’s say a 18% DC…

Our management to Robin .. “ you want us, you fought this hard, here.. it’s yours. Along with the highest paid narrow body pilots around.. you pay that tab”

If our management won’t be around to pay that price tag.. leave it in B6s lap. And of course their pilots would wanna snap up to our pay while we negotiate an entire new JCBA.. they leave behind an expensive tab for someone else to pay
You do understand United has an agreement right?
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Old 06-09-2022, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne View Post
Well if we do merge they need a joint CBA to finish it off so I don’t think they can drag it out that long.
I might be mistaken but I don’t think B6 management cares one bit about merging 2 airlines. Stopping a super ULCC from forming is their only goal here. They’ve said it themselves, they would dissolve the brand.

What would motivate them to move efficiently once their goal is achieved?
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Old 06-09-2022, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by afterburn81 View Post
I might be mistaken but I don’t think B6 management cares one bit about merging 2 airlines. Stopping a super ULCC from forming is their only goal here. They’ve said it themselves, they would dissolve the brand.

What would motivate them to move efficiently once their goal is achieved?
1/3rd of a billion is a lot to throw around for that idea.
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