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Old 09-04-2022 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by FahQ2
Obviously it won’t be a full new hire ground school, but it’s also possible between paperwork/docs/blue propaganda and benefits/etc it may be more efficient to run a short in person indoc. I would imagine NK pilots would need some form of sim PC check with B6 procedures to fly on their operating certificate. Seems like 3-4-5 days could handle all this and could be done anywhere with a sim, and fly out some HR people.
It very much could be a full course. It depends on if they are able to build and get a transition course approved.
All the 220 training, including indoc, is completed on the ipad. And they are looking to move the other fleets to similar training.
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Old 09-04-2022 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyhayes
It very much could be a full course. It depends on if they are able to build and get a transition course approved.
All the 220 training, including indoc, is completed on the ipad. And they are looking to move the other fleets to similar training.
When you say “indoc” do you mean airplane systems and procedures? I get that you can do aircraft training remotely, but indoctrination at each airline I’ve worked for has meant the HR housekeeping, signing all manner of documents, benefits review, the mandatory 121 review, drop ins from management and union, etc. the first week or so of coming on property. Then you go do airplane specific stuff.

My point is a certain amount of that, but not all, will need to be done with NK pilots and FAs, and that it might be easier to do it in person over a day or two. Pilots will probably need some kind of sim or checkout to fly on the B6 operating cert, or maybe not if they get a waiver for 320 to 320.

I just realized how much I don’t care about any of this…
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Old 09-04-2022 | 10:18 AM
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B6 will get the FAA's buy-in on a Transition Plan-- it will be the agreed upon course of action. I'm sure it will be abbreviated. For those who want to read more: https://fsims.faa.gov/wdocs/8900.1/v03%20tech%20admin/chapter%2034/03_034_001_chg_224a.htm
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Old 09-04-2022 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by FahQ2
I imagine NK pilots would need some form of sim PC check with B6 procedures to fly on their operating certificate. Seems like 3-4-5 days could handle all this and could be done anywhere with a sim, and fly out some HR people.
Originally Posted by FahQ2
Which is why I said the bulk of any in person would more likely revolve around HR stuff and the “culture” that B6 is so invested in. Could it all be done remotely, sure, but we are looking at new benefits, insurance, retirement custodian, etc etc. Then we will need to get new ID’s, new tablets, etc from flight ops, could it be done by mail, sure. Could NK crew records and HR send over everything, sure.

I don’t how it will go down and it’s not up to me, but it’s not a long stretch to see it may just be easier to do a 1-2 day in person indoc summary and a sim.
You have mentioned sim twice. They said a sim isnt necessary and can be done using distance learning. Im literally telling you what they announced when asked this question, you dont need to "imagine" what sims will be necessary, they said it isnt.
But like you said a few posts ago, who really cares?

TPA, JCBA ISL...those are my concerns. I couldn't care less about what I need to do in 2+ years to fly the same airplane
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Old 09-04-2022 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
You have mentioned sim twice. They said a sim isnt necessary and can be done using distance learning. Im literally telling you what they announced when asked this question, you dont need to "imagine" what sims will be necessary, they said it isnt.
But like you said a few posts ago, who really cares?

TPA, JCBA ISL...those are my concerns. I couldn't care less about what I need to do in 2+ years to fly the same airplane

The one good thing is JetBlue training could not be more relaxed if you tried.
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Old 09-04-2022 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
You have mentioned sim twice. They said a sim isnt necessary and can be done using distance learning. Im literally telling you what they announced when asked this question, you dont need to "imagine" what sims will be necessary, they said it isnt.
But like you said a few posts ago, who really cares?

TPA, JCBA ISL...those are my concerns. I couldn't care less about what I need to do in 2+ years to fly the same airplane
Good, now I’ll mention twice how much I don’t care about this, or what a random person on a web board literally tells me what “they” lightly addressed on an investor call. If you need to be right, go ahead.
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Old 09-04-2022 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by FahQ2
Good, now I’ll mention twice how much I don’t care about this, or what a random person on a web board literally tells me what “they” lightly addressed on an investor call. If you need to be right, go ahead.
Oh you are a salty little cracker, aren't ya? You cant get all bent out of shape in life if someone has new information that you are not aware of. Its an airline forum, shake it off.
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Old 09-04-2022 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
Oh you are a salty little cracker, aren't ya? You cant get all bent out of shape in life if someone has new information that you are not aware of. Its an airline forum, shake it off.
For the third time, I could give a flying fornication how B6 handles indoc. I was giving an opinion, not an absolute. You can have an opinion too, but saying some unnamed person sort of lightly addressed something on an investor call ain’t exactly stone carved facts to impeach me talking out my APU. It’s ok not to know everything, you’re not Bluedriver.
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Old 09-04-2022 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by FahQ2
For the third time, I could give a flying fornication how B6 handles indoc. I was giving an opinion, not an absolute. You can have an opinion too, but saying some unnamed person sort of lightly addressed something on an investor call ain’t exactly stone carved facts to impeach me talking out my APU. It’s ok not to know everything, you’re not Bluedriver.

just FYI, "couldn't"
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Old 09-04-2022 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
just FYI, "couldn't"
Haha. Classic.
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