JetBlue purchase of Spirt
07-30-2022 | 07:18 PM
#44
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When the SLI negotiations occur and it goes to arbitration, the 190s will not be used in any decisions. There will not be a stove piping of 320s above 190s. So let's go ahead and stop that nonsense right now.
07-30-2022 | 07:23 PM
#45
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ALPA merger policy is “Merger Announcement Date”. Its not relevant when it closes or is approved. All that matters is when the merger is announced. Anyone at either airline will be placed below all the pilots at the other airline.
Also remember that all that matters are 3 things with ALPA.
Status and Category
Widebody - 777/787
Narrowbody - 737 Airbus 319-321
Small Narrowbody E-190, A220, etc
Longevity
Career Expectations (this only applies to fences to protect widebody flying). It is to prevent an airline with a bunch of WB from acquiring a small airline, and then those pilots immediately being able to fly the WB planes they would have not had an expectation to fly.
The “payrate” integration argument has never worked. Even CAL argued their 767-400 should be integrated as a 747 because of the payrates, but it was rejected per the policy. Payrates are not mentioned in policy anywhere.
This merger should be pretty straightforward since the fleets are relatively the same except the small narrowbody planes at B6. Everyone should be within a couple percent depending on longevity.
Also remember that all that matters are 3 things with ALPA.
Status and Category
Widebody - 777/787
Narrowbody - 737 Airbus 319-321
Small Narrowbody E-190, A220, etc
Longevity
Career Expectations (this only applies to fences to protect widebody flying). It is to prevent an airline with a bunch of WB from acquiring a small airline, and then those pilots immediately being able to fly the WB planes they would have not had an expectation to fly.
The “payrate” integration argument has never worked. Even CAL argued their 767-400 should be integrated as a 747 because of the payrates, but it was rejected per the policy. Payrates are not mentioned in policy anywhere.
This merger should be pretty straightforward since the fleets are relatively the same except the small narrowbody planes at B6. Everyone should be within a couple percent depending on longevity.
Status and category refers to capt/fo, then narrow or WB. Or whatever other types you have.
Career expectations 100% involves pay amongst other things. It tries to look at what you would expect to financially recieve in you career which directly relates to seniority and aircraft to be flown.
Remember , these are the only 3 things they MUST consider, they can look at 100 others if arbitrators feel like. Good luck to all, it sucks. With you guys would expect it to play out pretty close to longevity given the similar fleets.
07-30-2022 | 07:33 PM
#46
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From: Airbus Capt
07-30-2022 | 08:29 PM
#47
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07-30-2022 | 08:35 PM
#48
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07-30-2022 | 08:38 PM
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Thanks for stepping in, you’ve really changed my mind about bluedriver being a clown. What you did do is put yourself in the same boat. Congrats on that. I’m sure y’all use the closest urinals together, probably holding hands. Impressive
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