View Poll Results: Displace back to FO or Commute for Left Seat?

Displace back to First Officer to avoid Commuting?

51.28%

Commute to Short Call RSV to keep Left Seat?

48.72%

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07-27-2025 | 08:17 PM

#121

FriendlyPilot

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Originally Posted by fw90

Exactly. Crummy deal for sure. If we were any other airline they would bend over backwards.

RTX made 1.66 billion Q2. They are not hurting.

The "other airlines" buy insurance to cover stuff like this. Spirit did not. Don't blame P&W. Spirit management rolled the dice and lost big time.

07-27-2025 | 08:34 PM

#122

FriendlyPilot

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Originally Posted by MANTOGASRS

My understanding is the current MEC Chair and NC is in training now for the first time in years. I found that out last week

They probably found out what the plan for Spirit is and its not likely flying planes or getting acquired and need to get their 100 hours of currency (or whatever it is now). This is not normal behavior for senior union leadership to go back to flying.

07-28-2025 | 05:06 AM

#123

colonials13

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270 furloughs and 140 downgrades confirmed. Company email. LGA co-domicile with EWR. No other base closure info.

07-28-2025 | 05:12 AM

#124

GearedUp

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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller

BTW this is the longest flame thread I’ve ever read. This OP went fishing and found an entire pack of jacks ready to feast on anything he throws in the water.

This aged well.

07-28-2025 | 05:29 AM

#125

checkgear

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Originally Posted by GearedUp

This aged well.

Some guys just want to stick their head in the sand and pretend it can’t happen to them.

07-28-2025 | 05:34 AM

#126

3inthegreen

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Joined: Dec 2014

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Sorry to hear about the reduction bid. Sucks for this pilot group for sure. If anyone wants help with AA, reach out to me and I’ll do all I can.

07-28-2025 | 06:33 AM

#127

AllOva736

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Joined: Mar 2016

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I’m a line holder as a CA this month, can’t even hold my base after the reduction. Got an interview offer from a legacy 10 minutes before this reduction email. Life is a roller coaster.

07-28-2025 | 06:35 AM

#128

Beech Dude

SrFOorJrCAisthe?

Joined: Sep 2017

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Originally Posted by AllOva736

I’m a line holder as a CA this month, can’t even hold my base after the reduction. Got an interview offer from a legacy 10 minutes before this reduction email. Life is a roller coaster.

Congrats and good luck. And yet they tell us the "systems" dont talk to each other

07-28-2025 | 06:48 AM

#129

ImSoSuss

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Joined: Mar 2021

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Originally Posted by LNAVVNAVPATH

Anyone else hear about the downgrades coming? IAH Captain and looking at weighing my options between downgrading or between commuting to Florida. Kid headed into college so I can’t really afford the downgrade, but my QOL is about to tank. Just added a bunch of 135 Apps out there since I haven’t had ANY luck with Legacies calling me.

For those bottom Captains about to get displaced, what’s yall plans, commute, or downgrade to avoid commuting?

Just keep in mind with the current situation once you downgrade it may be years before you get a chance to upgrade again.

07-28-2025 | 07:28 AM

#130

LNAVVNAVPATH

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Originally Posted by ImSoSuss

Just keep in mind with the current situation once you downgrade it may be years before you get a chance to upgrade again.

I’m just so terrified I don’t know what to do!! Ever since I read that email I’m so angry I could punch a wall. These 105 Captains from Vegas are gonna push SO MANY junior pilots out of DFW and IAH into Florida and maybe even the Northeast. I never should have ever left the Corporate Job I had. The only reason I did was my ex wife ended up sleeping with one of the owners while I was in long term training on the Hawker. FML. I think for me, I’m gonna nuke my 401k, pay off my house, downgrade back to FO, and pull all my kids out of their club sports, and then just keep applying everywhere and anywhere. F&ck!!!!!!! I should have left when Frontier fell through the first time! F&ck this POS airline!! I hope Ted slips and falls and his guitar lands right up his a$$!!!!!!!!!!