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02-01-2015 | 08:15 PM
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Section 11.D.
1. Ground training shall consist of all training conducted in a suitable classroom or at any place approved by the FAA.
2. A pilot shall be paid four hours per day for any home training program.
Home training shall not exceed one calendar day per month and shall be designed for no more than eight hours per day.
3. The following shall not be considered home study:
a. Study of written materials that the Company finds valuable and of interest to the pilots but that are not the subject of testing or evaluation.
b. Study of any manual issued by the Company to pilots.
c. Study of materials distributed to pilots in preparation for recurrent ground school.
Home study was intended for special training only, not recurrent, and cannot be forced on pilots under the current contract.
Section 25.
R. 4. a. 1.
If the number of red days in a bid month exceeds 25 percent in any one category/domicile,
the Company will decrease the minimum required reserve coverage threshold to allow for the approval of a greater number of net credit loss transactions.
CS has control over red days, as long as there are max 7 red/month.
1. Ground training shall consist of all training conducted in a suitable classroom or at any place approved by the FAA.
2. A pilot shall be paid four hours per day for any home training program.
Home training shall not exceed one calendar day per month and shall be designed for no more than eight hours per day.
3. The following shall not be considered home study:
a. Study of written materials that the Company finds valuable and of interest to the pilots but that are not the subject of testing or evaluation.
b. Study of any manual issued by the Company to pilots.
c. Study of materials distributed to pilots in preparation for recurrent ground school.
Home study was intended for special training only, not recurrent, and cannot be forced on pilots under the current contract.
Section 25.
R. 4. a. 1.
If the number of red days in a bid month exceeds 25 percent in any one category/domicile,
the Company will decrease the minimum required reserve coverage threshold to allow for the approval of a greater number of net credit loss transactions.
CS has control over red days, as long as there are max 7 red/month.
02-01-2015 | 08:31 PM
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Section 11.D.
Section 25.
R. 4. a. 1.
If the number of red days in a bid month exceeds 25 percent in any one category/domicile,
the Company will decrease the minimum required reserve coverage threshold to allow for the approval of a greater number of net credit loss transactions.
CS has control over red days, as long as there are max 7 red/month.
Section 25.
R. 4. a. 1.
If the number of red days in a bid month exceeds 25 percent in any one category/domicile,
the Company will decrease the minimum required reserve coverage threshold to allow for the approval of a greater number of net credit loss transactions.
CS has control over red days, as long as there are max 7 red/month.
02-02-2015 | 07:58 AM
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Looks like Ramrod has a slightly differing view and I know that he's usually pretty good with this stuff. But I do see where you're coming from.
Did the final red/green wording ever come out? If so, I didn't notice the announcement.
02-02-2015 | 08:09 AM
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"You are the 17th caller". This has got to stop. Waiting 30 minutes or more just to talk to scheduling. God forbid if they put you on hold and hang up by mistake.
02-02-2015 | 09:14 AM
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IROPs much?
02-02-2015 | 10:25 AM
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02-02-2015 | 12:30 PM
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I haven't read the arbitration awards (1-3), but technically as written, the company could publish a reserve grid with ALL RED. Not meeting the 25% threshold they could make one day green by one reserve and be in compliance with the letter of the CBA. There is no requirement to ever reach the 25% threshold.
Simply stating that there should be no more than 7 red days per month, would have been far less ambiguous.
It is not the only area in our CBA that has been open to interpretation.
02-02-2015 | 12:35 PM
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It's not IROP, it's either a FA trying to swap out 5 trips by phone or a senior FLL CA trying to swing a jrm deal
02-02-2015 | 12:55 PM
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Well, you seem to be willing to come on here to get your "information." Speaking of mute points: why don't you get on your ALPA app, look up the FLL FO Rep and call him? I betcha he will say "yes, yes that's me posting under my REAL name." SMH
You come on here for information and then try to assert that we would show all of our cards online. I'd much rather show each person the issues. Not scare tactics if that's their plan. Just because you don't see it yet means absolutely nothing. Not sure how this is a sh** sandwich when you will now automatically get 10 hours of pay ABOVE guarantee. Some folks are going to do better than others from that, but overall its much better than what we will be transitioning to.
My question is this: if we are at the top of the industry for this LOA regarding DL and iPads what more do you expect to obtain if we send it back? Its top of the industry so far as I can tell.
And before someone blasts me for not coming back on: this is my vacation. Its not easy balancing family, union work, and then adding this site to the mix. I'd much rather be on NKPILOTS.com
You come on here for information and then try to assert that we would show all of our cards online. I'd much rather show each person the issues. Not scare tactics if that's their plan. Just because you don't see it yet means absolutely nothing. Not sure how this is a sh** sandwich when you will now automatically get 10 hours of pay ABOVE guarantee. Some folks are going to do better than others from that, but overall its much better than what we will be transitioning to.
My question is this: if we are at the top of the industry for this LOA regarding DL and iPads what more do you expect to obtain if we send it back? Its top of the industry so far as I can tell.
And before someone blasts me for not coming back on: this is my vacation. Its not easy balancing family, union work, and then adding this site to the mix. I'd much rather be on NKPILOTS.com
I didn't come here for information. I made my decision based on emails I received with the LOA and the Q&As. I just came here to biatch like the rest of us.
My answer is this: When the company said "we won't discuss iPads without discussing DL" I would have preferred you to say "very well, see you in August." These are separate issues.
As has been stated by others this appears to be overall a concession. It will effect staffing so I don't care about 2 extra hours when it can cause upgrade times and the length of time waiting for a base you want to be in to swell. I don't care that this small fraction of our contract would be "industry leading" when there are so many other sections that are industry lagging. Now doesn't seem to be the right time for this.
02-02-2015 | 01:04 PM
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