Spirit of NKS
12-07-2013 | 06:59 PM
#6761
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I, for one, dont care how much money anyone here makes...as long as its done in accordance with the CBA. You see, that document means nothing if we sit around and decide which sections we'd like to follow, and which we'd like to ignore. It's all or nothing. Im quite sure you would be screaming bloody murder if the company violated the CBA and caused you some harm, yet you dont seem to be bothered when the company turns a blind eye to the CBA if it puts more money in YOUR pocket. Its a bit naive of you to think that doesnt affect any of your fellow pilots.
My point on you volunteering is this...If you believe the MEC or elected LEC reps are not representing the pilot group properly, and you also believe that your opinions regarding our "oppressive" union are true and shared by the majority, why not run for an elected position. You'd surely have a enough votes to get elected, right??
My point on you volunteering is this...If you believe the MEC or elected LEC reps are not representing the pilot group properly, and you also believe that your opinions regarding our "oppressive" union are true and shared by the majority, why not run for an elected position. You'd surely have a enough votes to get elected, right??
I'm pretty sure that the other options, (non union) carriers would not make any "ex NK" pilot's carrier any easier or better for that matter.
We visited this stuff several times after the contract, nothing to see here, move along and get ready for the next one.
12-07-2013 | 07:04 PM
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Whoever ran on the premise of getting rid of the Junior Assignment limits probably would win. I know he'd have my vote 
This is my 4th union airline, and it's the first one that says to the pilots that even if it makes your life better, and you approve, you may not violate the contract. It's madness if you ask me, but it is what it is.
RK
This is my 4th union airline, and it's the first one that says to the pilots that even if it makes your life better, and you approve, you may not violate the contract. It's madness if you ask me, but it is what it is.
RK
12-08-2013 | 04:57 PM
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Whoever ran on the premise of getting rid of the Junior Assignment limits probably would win. I know he'd have my vote
This is my 4th union airline, and it's the first one that says to the pilots that even if it makes your life better, and you approve, you may not violate the contract. It's madness if you ask me, but it is what it is.
RK
This is my 4th union airline, and it's the first one that says to the pilots that even if it makes your life better, and you approve, you may not violate the contract. It's madness if you ask me, but it is what it is.
RK
It is likely that our prohibition against true junior assignment is the most unique part of our contract.
We don't need to take any chances with changes to the junior assignment language.
There was an attempt made about three years ago to present a resolution at FLL to propose a return to unlimited premium pay, but it fell apart. Part of the reason it failed to gain traction was specifically that it was originally written to eliminate limits on junior assign.
If you need more background, call me.
12-08-2013 | 05:15 PM
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Systems knowledge is no substitute for experience.[/QUOTE]
Never said it was...
Never said it was...
12-08-2013 | 05:53 PM
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It should be 150% open time pick up and 200% JRM
12-08-2013 | 05:57 PM
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Trust me, you don't want to give up limits on junior assign. You DO want to allow unlimited premium pay.
It is likely that our prohibition against true junior assignment is the most unique part of our contract.
We don't need to take any chances with changes to the junior assignment language.
It is likely that our prohibition against true junior assignment is the most unique part of our contract.
We don't need to take any chances with changes to the junior assignment language.
I've worked for the airline that had unlimited JRM; I lost dinner dates, days off and family trips. I will NOT support any type of language that allows for that type of stuff here.
I DO, however, feel I should be able to voluntarily work any extra I damn well please.
12-09-2013 | 12:48 PM
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Couldn't have said it better myself. As was once said, "Those who forget history are destined to repeat it".
I've worked for the airline that had unlimited JRM; I lost dinner dates, days off and family trips. I will NOT support any type of language that allows for that type of stuff here.
I DO, however, feel I should be able to voluntarily work any extra I damn well please.
I've worked for the airline that had unlimited JRM; I lost dinner dates, days off and family trips. I will NOT support any type of language that allows for that type of stuff here.
I DO, however, feel I should be able to voluntarily work any extra I damn well please.
12-09-2013 | 01:39 PM
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Couldn't have said it better myself. As was once said, "Those who forget history are destined to repeat it".
I've worked for the airline that had unlimited JRM; I lost dinner dates, days off and family trips. I will NOT support any type of language that allows for that type of stuff here.
I DO, however, feel I should be able to voluntarily work any extra I damn well please.
I've worked for the airline that had unlimited JRM; I lost dinner dates, days off and family trips. I will NOT support any type of language that allows for that type of stuff here.
I DO, however, feel I should be able to voluntarily work any extra I damn well please.
Perhaps on our next contract some of the OT language (pay) will change for the better...but I think that we can only get there working all together rather than this "pro-against contract" groups we created.
It would be nice to pick up OT at 150%, and I can't, and I don't feel the need to insult the work or ethics of our union reps (pro-against contract)I wasn't there the moment that card was played, with that said, if they do something out of line, by all means we all should call it out. These group of guys work as hard as the previous and I'm sure the new up and coming teams will do the same. We still know each other pretty well, we aren't a 12000 pilot airline.
Just my dumb opinion.
12-11-2013 | 08:43 AM
#6769
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Anyone know what the ad wraps are slated to look like?
12-12-2013 | 11:09 PM
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Anyone have the highlights from yesterdays conference call??
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