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Old 09-30-2014 | 10:33 AM
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First rule of the Bone Daddy's Brigade?

Don't talk about Bone Daddy's Brigade!
Old 09-30-2014 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Dilbert
This forum has gone to sheet since the other board closed down...
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Old 09-30-2014 | 11:38 AM
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If you are about to go over your duty day, by more than the 30 min extension, what has scheduling offered you or can you legally ask for as an incentive to keep going?
Old 09-30-2014 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dilbert
This forum has gone to sheet since the other board closed down...
Why was the other board closed ?
Old 09-30-2014 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by vandypilot
If you are about to go over your duty day, by more than the 30 min extension, what has scheduling offered you or can you legally ask for as an incentive to keep going?
You need to be careful with that. You are implying you won't be fatigued with the proper compensation. You must file an ASAP anytime you go over the 30 mins, its in the FARs.

With that said, ask for whatever you want. Doesn't mean they'll give it to you. I got stuck in ORD last week for two days with that mess. Scheduling called me and said I was within 10 minutes of timing out so they pull me 6 hours before we were supposed to leave. I think they are being a little more proactive with the new rules.....or I just got lucky. So you might not get much. They may not risk it.

Anyone see the press release? ORD-SAN and ORD-PHL direct, daily starting next April.
Old 09-30-2014 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dn_wisconsin

Anyone see the press release? ORD-SAN and ORD-PHL direct, daily starting next April.

No, but "Frontier Airlines is announcing multiple new routes Tuesday, detailing plans to begin service to both Miami and Philadelphia while also saying it would expand its schedule at Chicago O'Hare."
Old 09-30-2014 | 01:32 PM
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Great, basically us and Frontier will undercut each other until we both file BK and have to merge together................
Old 09-30-2014 | 01:37 PM
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Correct me if I am wrong, but Frontier isn't in the same place as Spirit by any means.

I mean to say, Frontier is growing to try to stay alive. Spirit is growing cause they are making money. Plus, starting a fare war with an airline that has the lowest CASM in the industry when you aren't making very much money may not be the best idea.

I just don't see Frontier being able to really pose much of a threat to the Spirit business model.


Then again, what the heck do I know.
Old 09-30-2014 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilottim79
Correct me if I am wrong, but Frontier isn't in the same place as Spirit by any means.

I mean to say, Frontier is growing to try to stay alive. Spirit is growing cause they are making money. Plus, starting a fare war with an airline that has the lowest CASM in the industry when you aren't making very much money may not be the best idea.

I just don't see Frontier being able to really pose much of a threat to the Spirit business model.


Then again, what the heck do I know.
Frontier is growing but not at a rate close to NK. All this "expantion" is more of a case of them re-aligning. They are essentially doing what they should have done 10 years ago; largely pulling down DEN and putting these airframes in other markets. It seems as if they are throwing darts at a map of the U.S. and seeing what sticks and what doesn't, much like Spirit has done the past up till recently. Some routes will work and some won't, and will likely expand where they do good and pull down where they don't. I'm sure there will enough pie for the both of us for quite some time.
Old 09-30-2014 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dn_wisconsin
You need to be careful with that. You are implying you won't be fatigued with the proper compensation. You must file an ASAP anytime you go over the 30 mins, its in the FARs.
Can you reference this FAR?
The COMPANY has to let the FAA know anytime this happens. The PILOT does not....

And at my company, it's in our contract that if they ask, and we concur with such a legal extension, we get extra pay...
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