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Old 11-11-2014 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Dilbert
I wasn't as impressed by the turn out. 64.7% of eligible voters is kinda low imho...

I really only voted because I knew one of the reps. It would be nice if the format would take advantage of some of this gee whiz new media to put themselves out there so people can make a personal connection and an informed choice. Video conference, debates, q&a. Etc
Old 11-11-2014 | 01:27 PM
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I couldn't take it, had to register a username to stop me from going insane.

You guys do realize 150% helps the company right?

Giving something up for something that helps the company makes me realize how pilots really don't understand business.

If you need an explanation. Realize they could keep staffing numbers lower with 150%. Hence the reason people get upset when picking up overtime during a furlough.
Old 11-11-2014 | 04:07 PM
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150% is gone, done, outta here, bye-bye never looking back. We are 1000 plus pilots and growning. Spirit needs to have labor cost control. Giving out millions of dollars on premium pay hurts that objective. Yes I would love to see 150% back, however ask yourself "If we had 150% back how much open time would there really be?" Not much they will probably have a "zero open time policy". Very few would benefit. Remember for every action there is a reaction
Old 11-11-2014 | 04:40 PM
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I can only imagine a 150% open time pickup would only be negotiated with a seniority based open time pickup system.

Open time pickup registering above minimums is fine, no reason to expend "negotiating points" on something that wouldn't benefit a majority of pilots.
Old 11-11-2014 | 05:49 PM
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The 150% talk cracks me up.... How about we worry about industry standard pay, retirement, 6 hour min day, red eye override.... To name a few.

150% means nothing when we are making 50% less than our peers..SWA, Delta, AA( which was offered the highest paying contract in the industry) UniCal, and JB....
Old 11-11-2014 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by falcon2000aj
The 150% talk cracks me up.... How about we worry about industry standard pay, retirement, 6 hour min day, red eye override.... To name a few.

150% means nothing when we are making 50% less than our peers..SWA, Delta, AA( which was offered the highest paying contract in the industry) UniCal, and JB....
Ding Ding Ding!!!!!
Old 11-11-2014 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by falcon2000aj
The 150% talk cracks me up.... How about we worry about industry standard pay, retirement, 6 hour min day, red eye override.... To name a few.

150% means nothing when we are making 50% less than our peers..SWA, Delta, AA( which was offered the highest paying contract in the industry) UniCal, and JB....

Precisely!
Old 11-12-2014 | 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by falcon2000aj
The 150% talk cracks me up.... How about we worry about industry standard pay, retirement, 6 hour min day, red eye override.... To name a few.

150% means nothing when we are making 50% less than our peers..SWA, Delta, AA( which was offered the highest paying contract in the industry) UniCal, and JB....
Exactly. Always negotiate for what you are guaranteed to get based on min monthly credit. When the music stops and there is no open time, you will be kicking yourself for giving up something to get that 150%.
On a personal note, if you want to come to work on a day off, why should I give something of monetary value up just so you can get your 150%? It's your choice to work on your day off.
When you go out on medical and collecting long term disability, that 150% isn't going to help you since your disability is based on your hourly and min gaureentee.

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Old 11-12-2014 | 04:09 AM
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You'll actually be bagging groceries because our ltd is the worst in the industry and while most airline pilots will collect until 65 we only get 2 years
Old 11-12-2014 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
You'll actually be bagging groceries because our ltd is the worst in the industry and while most airline pilots will collect until 65 we only get 2 years
Another thing that has to and will be brought to industry standards. Young pilot group, we should be reasonable to insure. Like anything else, the more it is abused, the higher the rates get.
I am a bit more confident in my abilities and have multiple revenue streams, I won't be bagging groceries like I did when I was 15, lol, but I get what you are saying.
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