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11-10-2014, 06:51 PM
#8701
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Absolutely right. Compare the eagerness of the scheduling department to give premium pay now compared to a year ago. It's already happening, our lines average 75 hours because of financial strategy. Minimizing cost is their game. If it means reducing ability to pick up time because of the way lines are built they will do whatever it takes. Dog the new guys all you want but understand the new guys also understand how penny pinching can cut into quality of life because they've seen it happen first hand. Just because it didn't affect the days off prior to the 150% concession doesn't mean it won't down the road. The bigger we get the more incentive it is to cut costs, you can't give the benefit of doubt and pretend it will never happen. The leash on soft pay has already started, stay ahead of the game.
11-11-2014, 04:47 AM
#8702
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So out of 255 votes, only 165 voted. Shows interest.
11-11-2014, 05:07 AM
#8703
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: A-320
Posts: 6,929
Apathy will absolutely kill us come contract time
11-11-2014, 01:18 PM
#8704
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Joined APC: Aug 2011
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Posts: 338
Originally Posted by Sailor
So out of 255 votes, only 165 voted. Shows interest.
11-11-2014, 01:24 PM
#8705
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Posts: 1,420
Originally Posted by Dilbert
I wasn't as impressed by the turn out. 64.7% of eligible voters is kinda low imho...
I really only voted because I knew one of the reps. It would be nice if the format would take advantage of some of this gee whiz new media to put themselves out there so people can make a personal connection and an informed choice. Video conference, debates, q&a. Etc
11-11-2014, 01:27 PM
#8706
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I couldn't take it, had to register a username to stop me from going insane.
You guys do realize 150% helps the company right?
Giving something up for something that helps the company makes me realize how pilots really don't understand business.
If you need an explanation. Realize they could keep staffing numbers lower with 150%. Hence the reason people get upset when picking up overtime during a furlough.
You guys do realize 150% helps the company right?
Giving something up for something that helps the company makes me realize how pilots really don't understand business.
If you need an explanation. Realize they could keep staffing numbers lower with 150%. Hence the reason people get upset when picking up overtime during a furlough.
11-11-2014, 04:07 PM
#8707
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Joined APC: Sep 2005
Position: CA: A321/A320/A319
Posts: 96
150% is gone, done, outta here, bye-bye never looking back. We are 1000 plus pilots and growning. Spirit needs to have labor cost control. Giving out millions of dollars on premium pay hurts that objective. Yes I would love to see 150% back, however ask yourself "If we had 150% back how much open time would there really be?" Not much they will probably have a "zero open time policy". Very few would benefit. Remember for every action there is a reaction
11-11-2014, 04:40 PM
#8708
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Position: Airplane
Posts: 2,385
I can only imagine a 150% open time pickup would only be negotiated with a seniority based open time pickup system.
Open time pickup registering above minimums is fine, no reason to expend "negotiating points" on something that wouldn't benefit a majority of pilots.
Open time pickup registering above minimums is fine, no reason to expend "negotiating points" on something that wouldn't benefit a majority of pilots.
11-11-2014, 05:49 PM
#8709
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Posts: 279
The 150% talk cracks me up.... How about we worry about industry standard pay, retirement, 6 hour min day, red eye override.... To name a few.
150% means nothing when we are making 50% less than our peers..SWA, Delta, AA( which was offered the highest paying contract in the industry) UniCal, and JB....
150% means nothing when we are making 50% less than our peers..SWA, Delta, AA( which was offered the highest paying contract in the industry) UniCal, and JB....
11-11-2014, 08:51 PM
#8710
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Posts: 41
Originally Posted by falcon2000aj
The 150% talk cracks me up.... How about we worry about industry standard pay, retirement, 6 hour min day, red eye override.... To name a few.
150% means nothing when we are making 50% less than our peers..SWA, Delta, AA( which was offered the highest paying contract in the industry) UniCal, and JB....
150% means nothing when we are making 50% less than our peers..SWA, Delta, AA( which was offered the highest paying contract in the industry) UniCal, and JB....
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