Spirit of NKS
11-20-2014 | 06:56 AM
#8872
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From: A-320
Pilots bragging about what airline they work for...now that's funny stuff. Either side. It could flip for anyone tomorrow. I Like to be thankful I work for NK and the outlook is positive. Pride is the erosion of success
11-20-2014 | 07:01 AM
#8873
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I was simply responding to his post.
Last edited by putzin; 11-20-2014 at 07:17 AM.
11-20-2014 | 07:11 AM
#8875
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From: A-320
I haven't been at spirit long but I think the companies humility is part of it's success. Our ad campaign is based on our negative press and capitalizing on that, rather than how awesome we are. I hope it stays that way while we work on our contract an take part in the success.
11-20-2014 | 07:33 AM
#8876
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Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 3,247
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From: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
I don't understand the JetBlue bashing.
The company needed to change some things and we are doing just that. Some of you Spirit boys forget what goes up can come right back down, your 2 year upgrades won't last forever and things can change and stagnate at anytime. If this works JetBlue will be a much stronger airline and we really will be "following" you into the Carribean. Anyway we are all just pilots, and I am glad you guys are doing well but remember it can all change tomorrow.
Don't pick up those stones just yet.
11-20-2014 | 07:35 AM
#8877
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From: A320 CA
Indeed. I plan only for the absolute worst, that way anything even slightly better is a major success.
11-20-2014 | 07:36 AM
#8878
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Joined: Oct 2012
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From: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
No, just delayed a tad.
If you went around various OA HDQs into the depths where the real strategy/planning happens you wouldnt find much hate, but there would be a massive consensus that JetBlue has been one of the top strategically misguided companies in this business from a financial standpoint if one excludes VX. The financials prove it, there is no bias in numbers. Frankly, if you're doing the flying 0% of it is your fault and 100% of it lies in a NYC building by the water.
Also, its an average of just over 33 inches not 32. You probably should have that number down, every inch counts when it comes down to CASM...or when you are over 6ft tall
If you went around various OA HDQs into the depths where the real strategy/planning happens you wouldnt find much hate, but there would be a massive consensus that JetBlue has been one of the top strategically misguided companies in this business from a financial standpoint if one excludes VX. The financials prove it, there is no bias in numbers. Frankly, if you're doing the flying 0% of it is your fault and 100% of it lies in a NYC building by the water.
Also, its an average of just over 33 inches not 32. You probably should have that number down, every inch counts when it comes down to CASM...or when you are over 6ft tall
And as mismanaged as it was it still made money
The question is how much can they make if they get everything together?
11-20-2014 | 07:57 AM
#8879
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From: A-320
There is no Spirit envy.
I don't understand the JetBlue bashing.
The company needed to change some things and we are doing just that. Some of you Spirit boys forget what goes up can come right back down, your 2 year upgrades won't last forever and things can change and stagnate at anytime. If this works JetBlue will be a much stronger airline and we really will be "following" you into the Carribean. Anyway we are all just pilots, and I am glad you guys are doing well but remember it can all change tomorrow.
Don't pick up those stones just yet.
I don't understand the JetBlue bashing.
The company needed to change some things and we are doing just that. Some of you Spirit boys forget what goes up can come right back down, your 2 year upgrades won't last forever and things can change and stagnate at anytime. If this works JetBlue will be a much stronger airline and we really will be "following" you into the Carribean. Anyway we are all just pilots, and I am glad you guys are doing well but remember it can all change tomorrow.
Don't pick up those stones just yet.
and we are well aware the music can and at some point will stop. Its just funny to see all these airlines do exactly what we are doing after criticizing us for doing it. hypocritical much?Either way I think Jetblue would be stupid for not trying to increase their profits, the question is, what exactly is JetBlues business model? Is it LCC, quasi-legacy?, little bit of both? One thing I admire about Spirit is they know exactly what the model/plan is and that's a good thing, seems like JetBlue is trying to do both, maybe it will work, maybe it won't but it seems they are moving away from what made them so popular to begin with. Of course losing money to "stay true" to your roots doesn't make sense either.............
Last edited by JoeyMeatballs; 11-20-2014 at 08:09 AM.
11-20-2014 | 07:58 AM
#8880
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Not much. As in any case there's always two sides of the story and then somewhere in the middle is the truth. This was just one side so there are pieces of the puzzle missing. There is nothing "propoganda" about newhire pay. Typically in an employment-separation lawsuit the lawyer has to fight for current and back-pay. They have to list what he was making.
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