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01-22-2015 | 02:36 PM

#9871

Plane Ramrod

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs

We don't need 4 days off between training, just some food for thought

What's the source on that? I don't see any exceptions for training in 25 or 11. I haven't seen the arbitration award.

01-22-2015 | 02:45 PM

#9872

Judge Smails

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From: A320

Quote:

Originally Posted by StinkyFinger

Thank you Virgin America! That'll help our negotiations big time.

It's a nice bump for them, and it looks like their retirement is a big step in the right direction too.

01-22-2015 | 02:48 PM

#9873

The Juice

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StinkyFinger

Thank you Virgin America! That'll help our negotiations big time.

Yes, their new pay scale is more in line with what I imagine ours will be when the dust settles for DOS, where is ends up with DOS +4, who knows.

Note the step raises on the CA level. This is what a pay scale SHOULD look like in regards to year by year on a CA level. $29 from 1st year to 12th, not the $84 something we have currently

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01-22-2015 | 02:58 PM

#9874

BillyBaroo

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From: A320 F.O.

[QUOTE=JoeyMeatballs;1809370]It appears not..........there is no reason for them too......

I'm currently inclined to vote yes, get my 10hrs, do the training on a horrid 27hr DTW layover and look to perhaps clean up the language or "get the cost savings back" come contract time......

Kind of, "lose the battle to win the war" type of thing.

You never "intentionally" lose a battle to win the war. You decimate your intended target with intel, firepower, and manpower. Take away their will to fight, then you have succeeded in winning the war. This LOA IMO....not so much.

01-22-2015 | 03:07 PM

#9875

BillyBaroo

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From: A320 F.O.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs

It appears if we vote no well just have to go to the crew rooms to do it.........that's basically it. distance learning is coming regardless of the vote.

(This is how I interpret it)

Whoever screamed "oh my god" over the potable water needs a case of beer. That was awesome,lol

That was hilarious! There's always that "one guy" who doesn't mute---glad it was him!

01-22-2015 | 03:14 PM

#9876

TTOCSMCC

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From: A320 captain

Juice, DOS???
I sure hope that's at least 15% short of what we see for DOS rates!

01-22-2015 | 03:22 PM

#9877

The Juice

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Originally Posted by TTOCSMCC

Juice, DOS???
I sure hope that's at least 15% short of what we see for DOS rates!

Those VA rates are 30% higher than our current rates for many of the years in which we have the bulk of seniority on our list. If you dont think 30% hourly increases on DOS (without losing QOL or work rules) to the majority of the pilots with a vote, wont get voted in, I disagree.

Im sure the senior Daddy's and Mama's in FLL and DTW wont like these top end rates, but their vote is in the minority now. Like it or not, this is how it is now (not knowing your seniority, just general observation).

Would I love to see Delta rates, of course. Do I think rates like these with DOS increases will get voted in, yup, I do. A 4th year CA will have the choice of $131 an hour or $171 an hour, you dont think they are voting yes to this? Honest question.

01-22-2015 | 03:24 PM

#9878

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I'm not sure why anyone would listen to a flight ops management conference call and expect anything less than management spin.

Also, as it has been said before, if they do follow through on their threats anyone with a 13 or 12 day off line will get their two days of flying dropped and that is a huge portion of the pilot group.

01-22-2015 | 03:35 PM

#9879

WelcomeToBen

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12 or 13 day off lines?! I hope they don't start pulling that crap in Vegas. This is something that needs to be addressed in our next contract. Min days off for all line holders should be 15 and we need a much higher daily min. That should fix that problem. 12 day off lines.. That's awful.