Spirit of NKS
01-22-2015, 03:24 PM
#9871
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 4,603
I'm not sure why anyone would listen to a flight ops management conference call and expect anything less than management spin.
Also, as it has been said before, if they do follow through on their threats anyone with a 13 or 12 day off line will get their two days of flying dropped and that is a huge portion of the pilot group.
Also, as it has been said before, if they do follow through on their threats anyone with a 13 or 12 day off line will get their two days of flying dropped and that is a huge portion of the pilot group.
01-22-2015, 03:35 PM
#9872
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Joined APC: Apr 2012
Posts: 173
12 or 13 day off lines?! I hope they don't start pulling that crap in Vegas. This is something that needs to be addressed in our next contract. Min days off for all line holders should be 15 and we need a much higher daily min. That should fix that problem. 12 day off lines.. That's awful.
01-22-2015, 03:47 PM
#9873
Banned
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: A-320
Posts: 6,929
Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
What's the source on that? I don't see any exceptions for training in 25 or 11. I haven't seen the arbitration award.
01-22-2015, 04:22 PM
#9874
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 4,603
Originally Posted by The Juice
Welcome back
Originally Posted by WelcomeToBen
12 or 13 day off lines?! I hope they don't start pulling that crap in Vegas. This is something that needs to be addressed in our next contract. Min days off for all line holders should be 15 and we need a much higher daily min. That should fix that problem. 12 day off lines.. That's awful.
01-22-2015, 04:31 PM
#9875
ULTP-Ultra Low Tier Pilot
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,228
Stock has rebounded and up 7% today. If the company wants to start with the "guerrilla warfare" tactics come negotiation time, it may hurt their financials.
Baldanza himself owns millions in the stock.
Baldanza himself owns millions in the stock.
01-22-2015, 04:34 PM
#9876
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Joined APC: Apr 2012
Posts: 173
Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
13 for line holders and 12 for reserve on a 30 day month
01-22-2015, 05:15 PM
#9877
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Joined APC: Oct 2007
Position: A320 captain
Posts: 209
Originally Posted by The Juice
Those VA rates are 30% higher than our current rates for many of the years in which we have the bulk of seniority on our list. If you dont think 30% hourly increases on DOS (without losing QOL or work rules) to the majority of the pilots with a vote, wont get voted in, I disagree.
Im sure the senior Daddy's and Mama's in FLL and DTW wont like these top end rates, but their vote is in the minority now. Like it or not, this is how it is now (not knowing your seniority, just general observation).
Would I love to see Delta rates, of course. Do I think rates like these with DOS increases will get voted in, yup, I do. A 4th year CA will have the choice of $131 an hour or $171 an hour, you dont think they are voting yes to this? Honest question.
Im sure the senior Daddy's and Mama's in FLL and DTW wont like these top end rates, but their vote is in the minority now. Like it or not, this is how it is now (not knowing your seniority, just general observation).
Would I love to see Delta rates, of course. Do I think rates like these with DOS increases will get voted in, yup, I do. A 4th year CA will have the choice of $131 an hour or $171 an hour, you dont think they are voting yes to this? Honest question.
01-22-2015, 05:22 PM
#9878
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: A320
Posts: 42
How about all the FO open time in FLL for Feb.....
"Just One"
"Just One"
01-22-2015, 05:36 PM
#9879
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Joined APC: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,425
Originally Posted by TTOCSMCC
Well I guess if the majority wants to settle for similar rates to these, then this will be all we have to look forward to. The rates in the current CBA are flawed in that the longevity increases are non-linear. Fixing that is important. VX has new rates coming soon, great for them. But do you really see VX as a peer pilot group? We fly the same airplanes yes, but while we are about to have our 3rd CBA become ammendable they are only just trying a 2nd attempt at unionizing. JetBlue is closer, but still working on a 1st CBA. When you consider the growth and profitability of Spirit, and the maturity of our collective bargaining, I think there only 2 peer airlines as we go into negotiations, SWA and Alaska. What do you all think?
And....still voting "no" on the current TA. We shouldn't be doing scare tactics.
01-22-2015, 05:48 PM
#9880
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Airplane
Posts: 2,385
Originally Posted by Bluesideup9
How about all the FO open time in FLL for Feb..... "Just One"
"Just One"
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