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Old 01-14-2015 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
This is also just some food for thought but when bidding conflicts, it's better to have a conflict because of a 30/7 as opposed to trip touching. You make more money that way (I think anyway, lol)

When trips touch you don't get paid for both days where the conflict is........
30/7 (29/7 to be correct) kind typically gives you more $$. This is because you can actually have this with a day off in between the conflicting trips. So it may reach further into the new month and if you are less senior you may not hold lines that start on the the 1st. But now a days it is hard to find high blocking trips. You also have to watch it carefully and make sure all those 29h 01m is inside the 7 days. I.e. be aware of a red eye that goes LAS-FLL and only the first 30 min is on the day of departure. Ask me how I know...

The old recipe was:
After transition was adjusted, assuming the new month was dropped, drop the end of the old month while everyone is holding to the trips and it is green. Then pick up something a few days away from the transition area. Something that ends by the 27th-28th or so. This way you are free to pick up. Then make yourself AVL starting the 30th or so until the 5th. Rinse repeat. This is how I credited over 1400h credit with like 850h block and no more than 5 JRMs. I did that for several years. Of course none of this works anymore. There is no OT. You can't really drop then pick up that freely. Also the company got smarter building less lines with a conflict and shorter conflicts. And finally, the pilots got smarter. I used to be up against the old guys with their jitterbugs against my smart phone. Most did not even pay for alerts. Most never cared to read the contract either. It was easy to get a conflict every month. Now I get my ass beaten in FLICA most the time. All you new guys are wired in... I gave up plus I am reserve so I can't even pick up anyways.
Old 01-14-2015 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
^ I like where your heads at! Solid strategy
I only tell you because youre in ACY and no threat to me in DFW. Not like any DFW guys are on this thing..haha
Old 01-14-2015 | 10:37 AM
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ACY is awesome. I'm bidding #12 this month and my first 13 choices have a conflict .
Old 01-14-2015 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
I only tell you because youre in ACY and no threat to me in DFW. Not like any DFW guys are on this thing..haha

I was gonna say you might wanna keep this gold nugget under guard!
Old 01-14-2015 | 11:31 AM
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Just a FYI. When you fly with the senior guys who are clueless to the rest of the industry who still think they have it so good, DAL MD-88 CA just went to a 2008 new hire @ a pay rate of 186/hr. Not to mention profit sharing and 16% DC plan. DALs junior CA on their mosr junior A/C makes more than our Most senior CA on our most "senior" A/C, lol.

Hope that opens up some eyes come contract time....
Old 01-14-2015 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
Just a FYI. When you fly with the senior guys who are clueless to the rest of the industry who still think they have it so good, DAL MD-88 CA just went to a 2008 new hire @ a pay rate of 186/hr. Not to mention profit sharing and 16% DC plan. DALs junior CA on their mosr junior A/C makes more than our Most senior CA on our most "senior" A/C, lol.

Hope that opens up some eyes come contract time....

It's just the beginning. Let the flood gates open!

I'll stick around until 500 a320 pic at which point if we aren't dang close to a good contract I'll start making my way toward the exits
Old 01-14-2015 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by gonyon
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Originally Posted by The Juice


I only tell you because youre in ACY and no threat to me in DFW. Not like any DFW guys are on this thing..haha





I was gonna say you might wanna keep this gold nugget under guard!
Ahhh, doesn't bother me. Soon we will be red on the grid and it won't matter anyways.

I like to help out people find ways to make that cash.
Old 01-14-2015 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
Just a FYI. When you fly with the senior guys who are clueless to the rest of the industry who still think they have it so good, DAL MD-88 CA just went to a 2008 new hire @ a pay rate of 186/hr. Not to mention profit sharing and 16% DC plan. DALs junior CA on their mosr junior A/C makes more than our Most senior CA on our most "senior" A/C, lol.

Hope that opens up some eyes come contract time....
Do we want the Delta contract at Spirit? (i.e., get rid of 4 days off, pref bidding, no more transition conflicts). In other words, do we want the good with the bad that comes with being industry standard?
Old 01-14-2015 | 01:03 PM
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If you were a 15 year Spirit captain would you rather:

A. Spirit's A320 pay of $185/hr with 9% retirement match, no profit sharing, 4 days off between trips, line bidding, transition conflicts.

or

B. Delta's A320 pay of $203/hr with 15% retirement, about 8% profit sharing, no guarantee of 4 days off, Pref Bidding, and no transition conflicts.

Honest question.
Old 01-14-2015 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Frisco FO
If you were a 15 year Spirit captain would you rather:

A. Spirit's A320 pay of $185/hr with 9% retirement match, no profit sharing, 4 days off between trips, line bidding, transition conflicts.

or

B. Delta's A320 pay of $203/hr with 15% retirement, about 8% profit sharing, no guarantee of 4 days off, Pref Bidding, and no transition conflicts.

Honest question.
Good point. But the question on the next one will be about the 3-7th year CA rates and not about the 15+. No TA will pass without junior CA votes. The demographics has changed and will continue to change.
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