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Old 11-09-2016, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SourGrapes View Post
I cannot believe trump has won, this will set our contract back even more. why are so many of you pilots republicans? i don't get it
I totally agree with you on this one.

If you voted for him for your own reasons fine. But to those that think he will be friendly with organized labor, you need to wake up. Talk about low information voters.
Look at his dispute with the Culinary Union in Vegas. He is doing almost exactly what BB did and what RF and Bendover are doing now. Refusing to negotiate, intimidation and courts.
On this one issue, DT is not a friend to unions. Wake up people. Our negotiations just got longer.
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Old 11-09-2016, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunga Din View Post
I totally agree with you on this one.

If you voted for him for your own reasons fine. But to those that think he will be friendly with organized labor, you need to wake up. Talk about low information voters.
Look at his dispute with the Culinary Union in Vegas. He is doing almost exactly what BB did and what RF and Bendover are doing now. Refusing to negotiate, intimidation and courts.
On this one issue, DT is not a friend to unions. Wake up people. Our negotiations just got longer.
The NLRB has been assembled from the labor friendly hard left for 8 years, and the soft left for 8 years before that... lucky for us we should be able to fly through this process with the current lib - installed nlrb/NMB before they are destroyed by a life long lib turned moderate.
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Old 11-09-2016, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
Not in terms of quick ratification versus drawn out process, but moreso federal NMB Presidential appointees who can make the difference for labor. Clinton stopped AA because it carried 20% of the domestic travelers and over a holiday weekend. A Republican candidate would have done the same. Besides, this is a one off thing. For the most part, you can't deny the Dem party is more labor friendly than the Repub party.


Tell that to farmers, miners, loggers, power plant operators, manufacturing jobs NAFTA, TPP, yeah really keeping jobs at home


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Old 11-09-2016, 11:34 AM
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You morons who voted Yes for the DL LOA should have your voting privileges revoked.
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Old 11-09-2016, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Spear it View Post
Gotta watch out for those guys that start a four day trip with "I'm easy going"!
Ooooh, I was wondering why I get funny looks from the FO's. I need to stop saying that.
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Old 11-09-2016, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by SourGrapes View Post
I cannot believe trump has won, this will set our contract back even more. why are so many of you pilots republicans? i don't get it
One reason is that many pilots were military officers before they were union members. Switching to a new uniform is easy; a new ethos requires more effort.
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Old 11-09-2016, 12:24 PM
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One reason is that many pilots were military officers before they were union members. Switching to a new uniform is easy; a new ethos requires more effort.
A lot of freshly minted Generals and Admirals would point otherwise. Also, does that mean enlisted are typically lefties?
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Old 11-09-2016, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Spear it View Post
You morons who voted Yes for the DL LOA should have your voting privileges revoked.
Agreed!!!!
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Old 11-09-2016, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Cujo 665 View Post
Well no, 1500 is really just an arbitrary number. A **** ton of 250hr pilots have been hired into the right seat in the US. And basically SOP in the rest of the world.
Not since ATP became mandatory! There may be a couple exceptions that lower 1500 by a little bit (military or certain civilian schooling). This happened after families of flight such and such got federal law passed.

Where are these people demanding 1500 for bus drivers and train conductors that are involved with 1000X more accidents, injuries, and deaths?

... And the anti-hammer coilition? Cause far more people are killed with bats and hammers than guns...
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Old 11-09-2016, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by gonyon View Post
We have well over half of our aircraft on property. With that in mind no how long do you think upgrade will be for a new hired despite the current guys being at three years?



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In my Jan class this year, they intentionally avoided speculating on upgrade time. The only thing in our favor is that the 2021 aircraft total now include 9 319s that were not slated to still be here. That's like acquiring 9 more planes. And the article someone recently linked implies Spirit is looking to or more planes in 2018.

10 months here and I'm BARELY off reserve. Guys hired 1 year earlier made it half way up the FO list in a year..
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