Spirit of NKS, Part II
#1011
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Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 61
You are dead on Window Seat, as a Spirit captain and a proud no voter on the last concessionary contract, I feel like I am beating my head against a wall with this regional mentality. Just look at our last LOA giving up training conflicts for shiny iPads?!? That costs me almost 50 hours in pay for a recurrent month, ugh, trust me, these guys will never get it. The same pilots who claim our QOL is so amazing, have no idea what other airline QOL is. I have friends at practically every other airline out there, guess what? They are FO's making more than me and still getting 17-23 days off a month depending on the aircraft. So yea, its embarrassing listening to to justifications of the pilots here of why its so amazing to make as a Captain less than most FO's at any other legacy. My favorite line "we get four days off"! They truly think we have something no one else gets, lol.
#1013
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 8,899
shy, please get a hobby. Your constant trolling of this thread has gotten old. Talk to the crew involved, it wasn't as misleading as the article states. Plus, common sense (which you seem to think you have a ton of) would dictate if it was as simple as this, they wouldn't have deplaned and re screened the entire plane.
#1014
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Joined APC: Sep 2015
Position: A320
Posts: 568
Good number crunching! According to the MEC updates we were 20 m apart over 5 years. I might be wrong. It was a while back. If so, from to company's side this is all just posturing. They already know they are about to get a good deal on us.
Listening to the rumors, and reading here it sounds like we will be below JB at DOS and pass them over the years. I am talking about rates only. Well... It is almost 2016. Once again we are chasing JB and have to yet catch them. I will wait and see how far we are from industry standard and what else has been offered/changed (scope, merger protection, retirement, trip credit, LTD, etc). If the TA is close to JB, and it catches up quickly, and it is retro to August 1st 2015... it may be a case of one in the hand vs two in the bush. I mean how long should we wait and work under these current rates and rules??? You can ask for DL pay but how many years of negotiating is that going to take? 5? 10? There is no way to know. I sure as **** do not want to work for 30% less for another 5 years not to mention 10. But on the other hand, we cannot start way below standard if we ever want to catch up.
I guess we will just have to see...
Listening to the rumors, and reading here it sounds like we will be below JB at DOS and pass them over the years. I am talking about rates only. Well... It is almost 2016. Once again we are chasing JB and have to yet catch them. I will wait and see how far we are from industry standard and what else has been offered/changed (scope, merger protection, retirement, trip credit, LTD, etc). If the TA is close to JB, and it catches up quickly, and it is retro to August 1st 2015... it may be a case of one in the hand vs two in the bush. I mean how long should we wait and work under these current rates and rules??? You can ask for DL pay but how many years of negotiating is that going to take? 5? 10? There is no way to know. I sure as **** do not want to work for 30% less for another 5 years not to mention 10. But on the other hand, we cannot start way below standard if we ever want to catch up.
I guess we will just have to see...
#1015
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 4,603
Allegiant employees including pilots are getting bonuses equal to 5% of their pay from through September 30th.
#1016
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2005
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 61
The problem being as stated our current pay is bollocks and it is a cost benefit on how much longer we work for these pathetic wages. Of course retro to August 1st has to happen. At this point the company is faffing around on transition and this silly health care tax which will cost them all of $3 million a year if it comes to fruition.
#1017
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: Airline Captain
Posts: 540
Phone still isn't ringing
In other news the applicant pool seems to be drying up. I just ran into two pilots who went from zero to interview in two weeks or less; no job fairs, zero letters of rec. One guy submitted his app on a Friday and was on the phone with SF the following Monday.
Both captains at their respective regionals.
Both captains at their respective regionals.
#1018
Banned
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: A-320
Posts: 6,929
I believe our negotiators are meeting with the company all this week. Anybody have any rumors?
#1019
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 161
Hey there!, long time reader, first time posting (from the inside, 11/16 class) I heard that the NC usually only meets with the company in 3 day blocks. This time, the company requested 5 days of negotiations. Maybe there will be a TA sooner than later.
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