Spirit of NKS, Part II
05-20-2016 | 07:53 AM
#6161
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The lack of knowledge of our own union rules on here is abysmal. We have been in Section 6 since the amendable date of August 2015. They can call it whatever they want, "under the table", "focussed", "informal", "free vacation", "handshake agreement", or anything else: but it has always been under section 6 since August 2015. Please read your ALPA propaganda magazine that states the same thing every month if you don't believe me.
05-20-2016 | 08:14 AM
#6162
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From: A320 Capt
The lack of knowledge of our own union rules on here is abysmal. We have been in Section 6 since the amendable date of August 2015. They can call it whatever they want, "under the table", "focussed", "informal", "free vacation", "handshake agreement", or anything else: but it has always been under section 6 since August 2015. Please read your ALPA propaganda magazine that states the same thing every month if you don't believe me.
Actually, it was earlier than that- May, 2015 I believe....
05-20-2016 | 08:46 AM
#6164
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Notification – Section 6 of the Railway Labor Act requires that the company and/or the union provide advance notification of their intent to engage in contract negotiations; the terms of the existing contract determine when such notification must be given. This notification is commonly referred to as a Section 6 notice.
This notification was filed in May- 30 days' notice is required- any negotiations after that 30 day period are "section 6."
05-20-2016 | 09:16 AM
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Yes, hence August 1, 2015 was the section 6 official start, it was actually filed with August 1 listed on the filing. It can be more than 30 days out to file from what I understand, just can't be less.
05-20-2016 | 10:03 AM
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I guess the point I'm trying to make is just that "section 6" is merely the notification of the intent to make changes to the cba, and has nothing to do with the amendable date....
05-20-2016 | 11:00 AM
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So I guess you're saying they didn't meet at all during June and July.... I guess that could be true. I don't really remember....
I guess the point I'm trying to make is just that "section 6" is merely the notification of the intent to make changes to the cba, and has nothing to do with the amendable date....
I guess the point I'm trying to make is just that "section 6" is merely the notification of the intent to make changes to the cba, and has nothing to do with the amendable date....
05-20-2016 | 11:40 AM
#6168
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Its official......the company wants PBS
05-20-2016 | 11:41 AM
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Company wants PBS.
Fine with me. Make sure work rules are in place and Fng pay me.
I don't give a **** how I get my schedule.
PBS is fine if work rules and protections are in place
Flame away but our line bidding is a pain in the ass.
Allow swaps, allow a certain amount of open time, have solid works rules and use PBS to get rid of conflict (all while paying us appropriately
Fine with me. Make sure work rules are in place and Fng pay me.
I don't give a **** how I get my schedule.
PBS is fine if work rules and protections are in place
Flame away but our line bidding is a pain in the ass.
Allow swaps, allow a certain amount of open time, have solid works rules and use PBS to get rid of conflict (all while paying us appropriately
05-20-2016 | 11:57 AM
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No they don't. They can't even get an email system that doesn't ignore all incoming emails if your trash folder isn't emptied often. Our new flight planning software has us flying lower altitudes at higher CI numbers, with a tailwind. (How does that save fuel again?) Remember last year (year before maybe I can't remember) when they tried to implement Rainmaker for payroll?
They don't have to ability to implement PBS. Not now anyway. The FA agreement has no PBS for the life of the agreement. They just want to have us negotiate something away for keeping line bidding, when they have no actual plans of changing it. It's akin to that guy you are buying that car from on Craigslist telling you he has multiple calls and offers just to drive the price up on you. I really hope we don't fall for it.
They don't have to ability to implement PBS. Not now anyway. The FA agreement has no PBS for the life of the agreement. They just want to have us negotiate something away for keeping line bidding, when they have no actual plans of changing it. It's akin to that guy you are buying that car from on Craigslist telling you he has multiple calls and offers just to drive the price up on you. I really hope we don't fall for it.
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