We've considered all of our options. We want to allow Ryan and James to do the right thing. We believe they and the 109 reps will make the DFW LEC a reality. Our voices will be heard at the next MEC meeting. You can take that to the bank.

So ORD, ACY & DTW can all be one LEC but DFW should have their own? Our energy needs to be spent elsehwere, sorry

09-04-2016 | 02:43 PM

#8613

abbynormallaw

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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod

We've considered... We want...
Great, more nameless, faceless shadow ops.
Just curious, who's planning to run for these new lec officer positions?

I heard MN was going to run for CA rep, but when the going got tough, he was nowhere to be found..

09-04-2016 | 02:55 PM

#8614

lowandslow

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Originally Posted by MooseJaw

So ORD, ACY & DTW can all be one LEC but DFW should have their own? Our energy needs to be spent elsehwere, sorry

If any of those 3 bases want their own they should have it. Do a little research on other airlines and their local representation. I'll give you a clue they don't have to travel so far for their meetings. The argument against DFW's own local is all about the division of power at the MEC level. I know it was asked about before we entered "focused negotiations" so it's not a sudden movement. The reason it is just now becoming a known topic to everyone is that a group of guys finally put the work in on their own time to research and submit the request through the proper channels (i.e. Resolution). It wasn't enough to simply put it as a motion at a meeting a year ago.

09-04-2016 | 02:57 PM

#8615

Tine

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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod

We've considered... We want...
Great, more nameless, faceless shadow ops.
Just curious, who's planning to run for these new lec officer positions?

Herb Law and Rich Goldstein. You heard it here first

09-04-2016 | 03:12 PM

#8616

DFWLECNOW

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Originally Posted by MooseJaw

So ORD, ACY & DTW can all be one LEC but DFW should have their own? Our energy needs to be spent elsehwere, sorry

I believe that is up to the pilots in those respective domiciles. What you are witnessing is grass-roots democracy in action. I will say that we have a group of pilots getting ready for the upcoming LEC109 nominations. We've also been in contact with some ORD pilots interested in getting their own LEC up and running and leaving DTW and ACY. We have a motivated group here who are willing to put in the time to effect the desired change. All in due time.

09-04-2016 | 03:27 PM

#8617

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Originally Posted by Tine

Herb Law and Rich Goldstein. You heard it here first

Nah, Herb is holding out for A330 fleet manager

09-04-2016 | 03:39 PM

#8618

The Juice

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I do so love the forums....

09-04-2016 | 03:43 PM

#8619

Cruise

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Originally Posted by DFWLECNOW

What's so hard to understand about giving DFW a voice on the MEC? The NC is comprised entirely of LEC18 pilots. The MEC Officers are 2/3 LEC 18 pilots. RP and JA are both LAS based. We just ask for a seat at the table. We are dues paying members like the rest of y'all.

You can have a voice. Next time the 109 elections are held, vote in one (or more) of the DFW people.

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Originally Posted by MooseJaw

You guys are delusional if you think we need a new N/C. Completely FN'G delusional

Yes they are.

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Originally Posted by gonyon

The time to get a new nc in place was over a year ago. Now it would be a pretty big detriment for us.

There is obviously a lot of emotion around this issue.

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Exactly. The time has passed for a new NC...at least until a TA is delivered.

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Originally Posted by MooseJaw

So ORD, ACY & DTW can all be one LEC but DFW should have their own? Our energy needs to be spent elsehwere, sorry

Exactly! Hell, I'm all for DFW getting their own council if it happens. I'm also hopeful we give Texas back to Mexico.
I promise you DFW LEC types, you're not getting an LEC before we sign a new CBA. You need executive council approval and that'll never happen before the CBA is signed. Too much at stake to shake up the apple cart like that. Keep you eye on the prize and if you still want your council after we get a new deal...go for it. Until then, it's not happening.