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Old 06-28-2018, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano View Post
I just don't understand the angst some airline pilots have against joining a union. The only explanation is shear ignorance of the history of the profession, where it's been, and who had to fight for what.

There are plenty of non-union airlines out there to choose from. There is always corporate aviation. In both cases their obvious superior skills and rugged individualism would be better rewarded vs being chained to the seniority system and shackled by union dues.
It took me a while to realize this. Give some of these guys a break. Unions can be heavy handed so its daunting.
Unions are a necessary evil no doubt, but we reap the benefits.
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All you need to do is work for jetblue airways for a few weeks and you’ll understand why unions are a necessary evil.
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All you need to do is work for jetblue airways for a few weeks and you’ll understand why unions are a necessary evil.
Amen brotha
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NFL players work for a private entity. They must obey the rules of the corporation, just as we do 311.
Should we be able to make pointed PA announcements or wear political slogans on our uniforms? No.
You aren't forced to play the national anthem before every departure either.
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Q,

You mentioned doctors, lawyers, scientists, and engineers. Those professions are broad with unique, transferable skills. They are regulated by voluntary professional organizations that require their members to ... pay dues. You can't practice law for compensation without a Bar Card for example. Professional pilots are interchangeable non-deferrable self-loading safety equipment. Nothing more.
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Originally Posted by WhistlePig View Post
You aren't forced to play the national anthem before every departure either.
The players are playing the Anthem?
I thought they were sittin on their asses in the locker room from now on?
Great point
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer View Post
No one should have to join a club with forced dues in order to work for the government.

In terms of private sector, no one should have to do it there either, but it should be a choice.

Also keep in mind that unions are the largest Democrat slush funding source there is.
Not all public sector unions require membership. They are different state to state, agency to agency. Don't want to join? Fine. Need a free union lawyer because you goon something up? Tough.
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot View Post
The players are playing the Anthem?
I thought they were sittin on their asses in the locker room from now on?
Great point
I'm morbidly curious to see how this plays out.
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I'm morbidly curious to see how this plays out.
Me too- The NFL is so predictably ineffective.
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Let’s make paying taxes voluntary. But I still want the fire department to come when I call them. Freedom and all.
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