Bumps
04-06-2017, 11:53 AM
#63
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2012
Position: 787
Posts: 3,151
Originally Posted by jsled
oh man...This baby is cascading into the MOAB. MOTHER OF ALL BUMPS. KABOOM!!
............................LOOK OUT BELOW..................
............................LOOK OUT BELOW..................
All 747 pilots
All IAH 787 pilots
A good chunk of DCA 777 CA/FOs
A handful of GUM CA/FOs .
Then secondary displacements:
A good chunk of IAH 777 CA/FOs
A chunk of IAH 737 CAs
A handfull of IAH 756 CA/FOs
A chunk of SFO 787 CA/FOs
A handful of SFO 756 CAs
Then a DCA 787 base opening.
Its going to be a fun summer and fall, but hopefully this ends all the displacements, overstaffing, forced flying issues and we can start growing the bases instead of growing one and "organically" shrinking another. I wish we would have ripped the bandaid off 4 years ago but I do think this will be the last of it until the next economic collapse.
04-06-2017, 01:20 PM
#66
Pilot Response
Joined APC: May 2011
Position: A320 Captain
Posts: 479
It seems like this move signals the end of the Jeff/Fred-era. The cold, objective light of reason (and maybe fiduciary responsibility) is replacing the "well we've always done it this way" mindset and any lingering loyalties.
I don't mean to trivialize the impact to the non-scab IAH pilots, but the idea that any one hub exists in a vacuum and is important because "we-say-it-is", seems disingenuous and simplistic.
It's entirely possible that when, not if, the oil industry recovers, the 787 will be back in IAH.
Good luck to everyone.
I don't mean to trivialize the impact to the non-scab IAH pilots, but the idea that any one hub exists in a vacuum and is important because "we-say-it-is", seems disingenuous and simplistic.
It's entirely possible that when, not if, the oil industry recovers, the 787 will be back in IAH.
Good luck to everyone.
04-06-2017, 03:08 PM
#68
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,639
Originally Posted by DashTrash
That is 517 pilots (between the 400, GUM, and IAH 787) that are going to be displaced throughout the system. Gonna be interesting???
But note that the only thing really changing is aircraft route assignments---with the exception of GUM.
UAL will still be flying the same international city pairs but just with different equipment. This will mitigate some of the chaos as there will be commiserate "growth" on the "new" aircraft in the respective hubs.
The biggest hit will be at the training center as all this will be happening simultaneously with retirements off the same widebody fleets.
04-06-2017, 03:15 PM
#69
Banned
Joined APC: Jun 2013
Posts: 234
Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
Indeed.
But note that the only thing really changing is aircraft route assignments---with the exception of GUM.
UAL will still be flying the same international city pairs but just with different equipment. This will mitigate some of the chaos as there will be commiserate "growth" on the "new" aircraft in the respective hubs.
The biggest hit will be at the training center as all this will be happening simultaneously with retirements off the same widebody fleets.
But note that the only thing really changing is aircraft route assignments---with the exception of GUM.
UAL will still be flying the same international city pairs but just with different equipment. This will mitigate some of the chaos as there will be commiserate "growth" on the "new" aircraft in the respective hubs.
The biggest hit will be at the training center as all this will be happening simultaneously with retirements off the same widebody fleets.
04-06-2017, 03:58 PM
#70
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: A320 Cap
Posts: 2,282
Originally Posted by pilotgolfer
It will absolutely ripple across the whole airline. IAH 787 is closing. 787 is flying LHR, CDG, PEK and GRU out of IAD so that will affect 777 DCA. The delayed deliveries of the 777-300 due to the seat installs adds another wrinkle to the situation.
Just when you thought things were running smoothly...
Just when you thought things were running smoothly...
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