Anyone with the drive and discipline to get this far can do better than flipping burgers outside of aviation, even now. Give me a break. It’s easy for people to talk a big game about what they’d do when the company is making record profits, its another when your job is on the line. I worry that this group is all talk and ends up taking something that provides some short term relief, but results in long term pain. Sometimes it’s better to walk away than to buckle and spend a decade paying for it.

 

You guys needs to chill out until the ACTUAL details and agreement are released. It was stated at the C57 in person meeting yesterday that some of that rumor is false and it is missing all of the details. Also the chairmen was in favor of allowing this agreement to go to a TA. To which the membership in attendance at the meeting also voted in favor of allowing it to go to TA after lengthy discussion.

 

almost 3,000 Jobs lots vs. 0 Jobs lost.

 

Once again, how does paying someone a higher pay rate in a seat they DON’T belong in help save one damn job?

 

there are all kinds of things that happen out of seniority order due to sheer good/bad luck of the recipient. Should you get a paid move when someone junior to you is displaced? A lot of things happen to pilots out of seniority order… I think you should be careful about using that metric as whether or not you believe something is perfectly fair.

I am a bottom third captain, who would by far lose the most if this is past. 30% pay cut back to the right seat, then additional 50% (As rumors would have it). I will wait to review the actual language, but as it stands I would probably vote yes. It sucks to be in the group that is hit the hardest, but a line has to be drawn somewhere and if I believe the agreement is fair for the vast majority of our pilots, I have to accept that Somebody is always going to get the short end of the stick.

“sometimes you eat the bar, sometimes the bar eats you”

 

Sucks doesn't it?

 

Sounds good! I’m eagerly awaiting that message. Whatever happened to the “full pay to the last day” mantra everyone was spitting the last few months?

 

A pilot that can NO longer hold a particular seat should not be getting paid for that seat, me included. Someone is paying that pilot for a seat he can NOT hold , and it’s looks like me and you and NOT mother United.

 

Which seat do they not belong in? The one they bid for and were awarded in a vacancy bid or the seat they were displaced too and may sit in until a training class starts?

 

What? So when the 309 displacements were canceled in May, "we" paid for them to occupy their displaced seats until they could be trained back into the seats they were awarded though vacancy. I don't understand your reasoning here?