So....increased load factors at some point generate higher revenue since they can raise ticket prices. Are you saying that they will fly planes full of cheap fares without raising prices?

 

He was embellishing his response, yes....but (sadly) it seems he does actually feel that way.

 

This deal is horribly inefficient from the company standpoint. They are willing to spend a little more for the short term to buy some time and make a decision this spring/summer using more valid data than they have now. Only a fool would believe that the company would want any part of this deal as we approach bankruptcy, much less leverage it against us. They are going to want the most efficient labor force that they can get. If we get to that point, this deal will have no benefit to the company, and they will furlough until they have their optimum staffing level while they ask the court for lower rates and work rules. The focus will shift from wanting to be in a good position for recovery to survival and slashing to the bone.

 

I thought you were being sarcastic with the:
WHEREAS, the parties sought an agreement that recognizes and rewards the sacrifices made by the Pilot group in entering this agreement;”

 

So I took another look at it and you are correct - the work reductions are in line with those of line pilots. I'm not sure why it seemed (relatively) overly generous to me at first blush, but I stand corrected.

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I think this is on point.

On the one hand it's a sheite sandwich, and on the other hand it's a sheitte sandwich with mayo.

Amazing that we could cook this up in such short-order. yet we couldn't get a contract for 2 friggin years. Gimme a break.

Lots of executive session in my opinion. Lack of transparency. No polling or surveying of pilot group since C19 outbreak, and maybe for last 2 years.

 

LGsailor's Avatar LGsailor , Today 02:22 PM
Stop wasting time

Instead of arguing about preferences and defending union reps as if they were your spouses, the pilot group should be focusing in solving their real problem as inteligent pilots and not as if they were politicians. We should send the reps back to get the TA right Anytime a group of people is divided, they are easier to defeat or to conquer. Just for that reason that reason that TA is not good. However, that should not mean that we can't have another (a better one) specially if done honestly and fairly as a group and not on the backs of the junior pilots while pretending that we want to save their jobs. We can not be that disingenuous. Stop wasting time arguing about whether or not we should eat the plate of s.... that is at the table, why would you even consider eating what you don't want? If you must eat something, lets first make sure is something we can all eat. Let's have the courage to act correctly and if possible, let's figure out the correct way to use our strength to equally look after and protect the ones that can not do it for themselves. Not even with a vote because they just got here

 

Very common sense approach.

Union reps don't need defending. The people that do that misplace personal loyalty over loyalty to the profession or to the seniority system that is our profession.

The more we grow accustomed and accepting of eroded seniority with programs like PBS that homogenize your seniority the harder it will be to enforce the pure and true seniority system as a whole. Bidding for monthly schedules, and other things that come from seniority will be further diminished. Once diminished that will be the new norm. your seniority number won't really be a number. it will be a "range". Sorta like the 1/3 bucket or "range" that we find our selves in now. Seniority within feasibility, overall solution constraints, or whatever you want to call it is now in the LOA.

 

Uhmmm, not sure you understand how this works, getting everyone to to "eat" what they want is impossible, even during the best of times. So the simple majority rules.

But just like real politics this has turned to sh*t sandwhich and instead of guys having sensible discussions about it, an infowars like campaign has been started and is filled with so much fake news it isn't funny.

It's hard to eat at the table when the anonymous person across the table is spewing out raw sewage.

 

Classic. Is this you Bob?