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Old 07-25-2021 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
No snapshot update until Monday. And the final's on Friday.
I suppose we can talk about newhires getting the 777 out of indoc and ordering Porsches from the factory in the meantime.
Or we can have a couple of RJ lifers opine how China rulez and the US droolz while we wait for another silly snapshot. Neither of whom state that they've ever been to China.
Porsches and 777 to new hires sounds like the most reasonable thread drift we can hope for.
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Old 07-25-2021 | 09:46 AM
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I've always laughed at the guys that took 'the early upgrade' and told myself that I would wait until I could bid a line first. Now that I could actually bid to jump the trash bag, I find myself saying "5 from the bottom in EWR couldn't be that bad, could it?"

Our reserve rules suck for commuters, and that is one of many reasons why the left seat is going so junior...
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Old 07-25-2021 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Wingedbeast;[url=tel:3268243
3268243[/url]]china is the future, they are gonna steam roll the US. China builds dams and freeways like they are nothing, meanwhile we argue about what to rename them. They also don't have debates about "gender identity".
Look up “tofu-dreg.”
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Old 07-25-2021 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Wingedbeast
when the time is right I will.
good riddance to bad rubbish.
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Old 07-26-2021 | 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
No snapshot update until Monday. And the final's on Friday.
I suppose we can talk about newhires getting the 777 out of indoc and ordering Porsches from the factory in the meantime.
Or we can have a couple of RJ lifers opine how China rulez and the US droolz while we wait for another silly snapshot. Neither of whom state that they've ever been to China.
I don't see a problem with 777 for new hires 'cuz it's a great plane, easy to fly, the captains and flying FOs are all very experienced, and best of all the school is not too hard. That all compares to ending up on the 756 with its 40 year old tech, multiple models that are VERY different and shouldn't be the same category at all, plus a chance of a new hire flying internationally with a captain who hasn't done an international leg in months and a second FO that might be in the same boat.

I've decided to take a EWR-756 bid this time around and actually had to sit upfront in a 757 from DEN to EWR yesterday. Happily it all looked familiar. After 17 years in the right seat on that fleet I'm hoping my 3 years of bus time won't have corrupted my Boeing brain too much. Also, I'm thinking/hoping I will hold mostly 80+ hours of 76 flying which should be a bit of a raise in monthly income to help pay for the new Porsche. Still waiting on an "allocation" after 2 months. Can't believe a time has arrived when one can't even order a new car without months and months of waiting. Who would ever have believed it??

Heck, if car makers actually follow the current mania and shift production to mostly EVs this might be a warning of what future ICE drivers of any brand can expect. Won't that be fun? Maybe I should order 2
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Old 07-26-2021 | 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Sunvox
I don't see a problem with 777 for new hires 'cuz it's a great plane, easy to fly, the captains and flying FOs are all very experienced, and best of all the school is not too hard. That all compares to ending up on the 756 with its 40 year old tech, multiple models that are VERY different and shouldn't be the same category at all, plus a chance of a new hire flying internationally with a captain who hasn't done an international leg in months and a second FO that might be in the same boat.

I've decided to take a EWR-756 bid this time around and actually had to sit upfront in a 757 from DEN to EWR yesterday. Happily it all looked familiar. After 17 years in the right seat on that fleet I'm hoping my 3 years of bus time won't have corrupted my Boeing brain too much. Also, I'm thinking/hoping I will hold mostly 80+ hours of 76 flying which should be a bit of a raise in monthly income to help pay for the new Porsche. Still waiting on an "allocation" after 2 months. Can't believe a time has arrived when one can't even order a new car without months and months of waiting. Who would ever have believed it??

Heck, if car makers actually follow the current mania and shift production to mostly EVs this might be a warning of what future ICE drivers of any brand can expect. Won't that be fun? Maybe I should order 2
How long is 756 training if you’re on property?
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Old 07-26-2021 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Squallrider
How long is 756 training if you’re on property?
Same as any other fleet. They are all on a 20 to 25 day footprint. Add in days off and it’s about a month of training.
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Old 07-26-2021 | 09:38 AM
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WB flying is not hard. There have already been relatively new hires go to the 777 and 787. Honestly, grinding 4-leg days in the Airbus out of EWR with a new captain that hasn't been a captain in 5-20 years is probably far "harder" on someone than flying a 777 one leg to anywhere. The USAF has guys flying C-17 and C-5's right out of UPT. I imagine a 777 in indoc might go senior to someone that's been in the industry for 15-20 years. The worst part for the company might be someone "unproven" at a legacy spend their first year in the bunk.
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Old 07-26-2021 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by okieskies99
WB flying is not hard. There have already been relatively new hires go to the 777 and 787. Honestly, grinding 4-leg days in the Airbus out of EWR with a new captain that hasn't been a captain in 5-20 years is probably far "harder" on someone than flying a 777 one leg to anywhere. The USAF has guys flying C-17 and C-5's right out of UPT. I imagine a 777 in indoc might go senior to someone that's been in the industry for 15-20 years. The worst part for the company might be someone "unproven" at a legacy spend their first year in the bunk.
Not really analogous. A new C-17 co-pilot will get more landings in a week than a new hire on the 777 will see in a year.
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Old 07-26-2021 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by okieskies99
WB flying is not hard. There have already been relatively new hires go to the 777 and 787. Honestly, grinding 4-leg days in the Airbus out of EWR with a new captain that hasn't been a captain in 5-20 years is probably far "harder" on someone than flying a 777 one leg to anywhere. The USAF has guys flying C-17 and C-5's right out of UPT. I imagine a 777 in indoc might go senior to someone that's been in the industry for 15-20 years. The worst part for the company might be someone "unproven" at a legacy spend their first year in the bunk.
And then they show up for landings class and wow everyone in the sim. Hoss?
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