Two new hires fired?
08-09-2021 | 12:36 PM
#172
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I think one of the parties has to notify the other if they wish to terminate it.
"This Letter of Agreement shall become effective upon signing and shall continue in effect until the effective date of a written notice of termination served upon the other party no less than thirty (30) days prior to the proposed effective date, except that the Association may only terminate this Letter of Agreement effective no earlier than the day after the last day of the December 2022 Bid Period."
"This Letter of Agreement shall become effective upon signing and shall continue in effect until the effective date of a written notice of termination served upon the other party no less than thirty (30) days prior to the proposed effective date, except that the Association may only terminate this Letter of Agreement effective no earlier than the day after the last day of the December 2022 Bid Period."
08-09-2021 | 12:40 PM
#173
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From: 777 FO
08-09-2021 | 12:44 PM
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So following your logic:
don't take any drugs until it has been around 20 years because "we can't be sure" - guess you'll never want to fly a plane designed in the last 20 years.
Calling a drug experimental doesn't make it so. The day it received emergency authorization it stopped being experimental, no matter what you say. You don't have to be signed up for a trial to take it = not experimental.
We don't control other countries and they are going to require vaccination records/passports. Turning off social media doesn't affect other countries and the policies they have. For a company that generates as much revenue from international travel, I'd think you would want a pathway to re-capture that market share when it is available.
don't take any drugs until it has been around 20 years because "we can't be sure" - guess you'll never want to fly a plane designed in the last 20 years.
Calling a drug experimental doesn't make it so. The day it received emergency authorization it stopped being experimental, no matter what you say. You don't have to be signed up for a trial to take it = not experimental.
We don't control other countries and they are going to require vaccination records/passports. Turning off social media doesn't affect other countries and the policies they have. For a company that generates as much revenue from international travel, I'd think you would want a pathway to re-capture that market share when it is available.
08-09-2021 | 12:58 PM
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Mandatory vaccines are a major change not covered in the current contract. While the company may not be able to mandate vaccines, they are required to schedule and pay pilots according to the contract. So if they want to pay us to sit at home, fine. They can do that. It's contractual.
This affects every pilot, including the most bold pro-vax guinea pig. Do you like money? Would you appreciate compensation for efforts on your days off? Like career and medical protections? Want limits on what may be required and who is allowed to approve or mandate it, and when? I can't imagine this is only 10%.
This affects every pilot, including the most bold pro-vax guinea pig. Do you like money? Would you appreciate compensation for efforts on your days off? Like career and medical protections? Want limits on what may be required and who is allowed to approve or mandate it, and when? I can't imagine this is only 10%.
08-09-2021 | 03:08 PM
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Mandatory vaccines are a major change not covered in the current contract. While the company may not be able to mandate vaccines, they are required to schedule and pay pilots according to the contract. So if they want to pay us to sit at home, fine. They can do that. It's contractual.
This affects every pilot, including the most bold pro-vax guinea pig. Do you like money? Would you appreciate compensation for efforts on your days off? Like career and medical protections? Want limits on what may be required and who is allowed to approve or mandate it, and when? I can't imagine this is only 10%.
This affects every pilot, including the most bold pro-vax guinea pig. Do you like money? Would you appreciate compensation for efforts on your days off? Like career and medical protections? Want limits on what may be required and who is allowed to approve or mandate it, and when? I can't imagine this is only 10%.
Then there's force majeure clauses.
I suspect this could be widely variable based on any specific nuggets or lack thereof in various CBA's.
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