Originally Posted by symbian simian

I could be wrong, because I did have TPIC. But I really think my M&G was what got me the fast interview date. Had my LORs and resume in bound folders ready to hand out, had my story straight. Had very positive feedback from all the recruiters. I also did do interview prep, and I feel that made more of a difference than my experience at the interview. Berfore leaving a great career for an okay job )*, maybe do some mock interview or M&G with people that do that for a living.
Not sure from which side of the country you are commuting, but that shouldn't last forever. If you don't get out of Breeze, you will regret it fast. Free advice, you get what you pay for!

)* : Yes, upgrade could be a while at SWA, but you will earn a very good amount of money in the right seat. Schedules are good, TAFB@guarantee is probably lowest for any NB pilot. Flexibility and commutability are good/great. Only DEC position for Breeze is E190/MSY on the charter fleet. Think 11 days off, in 1 or 2 day blocks.....

Originally Posted by Turbosina

Very junior (just short of a year) UAL guy here. I was in one of SWA's last classes before they shut down hiring. I totally get the pain of a transcon commute -- nearly all of my SWA classmates are commuting to RSV in BWI and MCO. But as others have said, for the love of God do not leave SWA unless you're going to another major (and right now, the three legacies are all hiring).

Plus, upgrade at UAL is vastly longer than it was a few months ago. The latest vacancy bid is likely going to see the most junior upgrade at around 60 pct system seniority. That's about the same upgrade time as at SWA. Literally hundreds if not thousands of UA upgrades have happened in the past year. I do think UA upgrades will get a bit more junior than the latest bid shows, but if you think you're missing a quick upgrade at UA -- that ship sailed a long time ago for a lot of us...

Hang in there. SWA FO is not a bad place to hang your hat for a bit...

Originally Posted by ap0312

For me it’s not about upgrading to upgrade, it’s about getting TPIC for United to even look at my application. Which wont happen at SWA for a LONG time and could happen quicker somewhere outside SWA. But you all have been so helpful. SWA has been good to me..BWI commute rough.

thanks everyone for the dose of sanity!

Originally Posted by Turbosina

Very junior (just short of a year) UAL guy here. I was in one of SWA's last classes before they shut down hiring. I totally get the pain of a transcon commute -- nearly all of my SWA classmates are commuting to RSV in BWI and MCO. But as others have said, for the love of God do not leave SWA unless you're going to another major (and right now, the three legacies are all hiring).

Plus, upgrade at UAL is vastly longer than it was a few months ago. The latest vacancy bid is likely going to see the most junior upgrade at around 60 pct system seniority. That's about the same upgrade time as at SWA. Literally hundreds if not thousands of UA upgrades have happened in the past year. I do think UA upgrades will get a bit more junior than the latest bid shows, but if you think you're missing a quick upgrade at UA -- that ship sailed a long time ago for a lot of us...

Hang in there. SWA FO is not a bad place to hang your hat for a bit...

Originally Posted by KnightNight

60% system seniority is about 4 years or so at United. Not close to swa upgrade times. But definitively increasing from the past few years as vacancies have driednup

Originally Posted by Turbosina

Ah, great point, thank you for clearing that up. I wish there was a chart that approximately equated system seniority to years of service...

Originally Posted by VacancyBid

It's highly non-linear. I guarantee you 2025 hires are not going to be 60% seniority in 2029.

If you assume an average 25-30 year career, 3-4% per year is a sustainable long-term average. 10% per year isn't normal.

Originally Posted by Turbosina

Very junior (just short of a year) UAL guy here. I was in one of SWA's last classes before they shut down hiring. I totally get the pain of a transcon commute -- nearly all of my SWA classmates are commuting to RSV in BWI and MCO. But as others have said, for the love of God do not leave SWA unless you're going to another major (and right now, the three legacies are all hiring).

Plus, upgrade at UAL is vastly longer than it was a few months ago. The latest vacancy bid is likely going to see the most junior upgrade at around 60 pct system seniority. That's about the same upgrade time as at SWA. Literally hundreds if not thousands of UA upgrades have happened in the past year. I do think UA upgrades will get a bit more junior than the latest bid shows, but if you think you're missing a quick upgrade at UA -- that ship sailed a long time ago for a lot of us...

Hang in there. SWA FO is not a bad place to hang your hat for a bit...

Originally Posted by ap0312

For me it’s not about upgrading to upgrade, it’s about getting TPIC for United to even look at my application. Which wont happen at SWA for a LONG time and could happen quicker somewhere outside SWA. But you all have been so helpful. SWA has been good to me..BWI commute rough.

thanks everyone for the dose of sanity!