I really wonder where you are getting your facts from. The wealthiest 10% of americans own 66% of the wealth in the USA. To be in the top 10%, you need to have a net worth of about $855k. What blue collar jobs are going to come close to allowing you to save that much money?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...total%20wealth.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/rich-...182847861.html

 

The undertone in many of these posts (here and elsewhere all across the industry) is that anyone who isn't a white male couldn't be one of the "best pilots" that everyone is always saying we should be hiring. Until y'all can see a non-white or non-male pilot and not reflexively assume they're a "diversity hire," we will continue to need DEI.

There's nothing like acronyms and pronouns to trigger the fragile.

 

I sure don't feel demonized but I've got pretty thick skin. If you feel that way hey I believe you.

I would LOVE for you to describe "normal thinking folks" in the context of your comment.

Also, I'd hazard a guess you've never actively sought the opinion of (and made an effort to listen to) a female or non-white pilot with 20+ years in the industry on what they think of efforts to broaden interest in the profession and how their experiences have perhaps differed from their more typical counterparts.

 

Anyone who says this has almost assuredly never lacked representation in life. People both notice and care. I've seen people noticeably excited getting off an airplane to see their [race, sex, etc] represented by their pilots. It matters. Just because you've never felt that doesn't mean others don't.

The default assumption by the flying public is that any of us are the best people for the job, and yet for some reason we can't even extend that courtesy to some of our colleagues.

 

Agreed. I am excited when I see the intro's for an NFL game and 10% are white.

Only look for %5 of the NBA before I'm excited.

Still looking for female representation in either venues.

Feel bad for the Hispanics.

 

you are totally off point here. Go back and read again then try again without emotion. Representation....really?
No race and sex don't matter regarding safety. Maybe that matters to your circle of friends, but it doesn't matter to most people regarding safety.
Again way off base.

 

Im glad you have thick skin but like the other lefty posters your missing the point.
I have flown w many poc and female pilots that have been excellent. In fact some of them don't like DIE because it takes away form their hard work and efforts becoming a pilot.

 

This is an absolutely textbook example of a strawman argument. Well done.

Show me once where I said, or even implied, race and sex matter when it comes to safety. What I did say is people, especially demographics that are under-represented in a given environment, notice when they see people who look like them in places where they're not used to seeing them.

I'll say it again, if you don't understand the value and importance of feeling represented in society, it's not something you've ever had to worry about. Tell the young black man who sees a black pilot or the young girl who sees a female pilot those things don't matter when the overwhelming majority of interactions they've had are with people who don't look like them. If that doesn't resonate with you, then it doesn't apply to you. Be grateful for that. It doesn't make it less valid.

You seem hell-bent on making the assertion that there are pilots out there who are less safe and were hired for other than their qualifications. If you're going to make the assertion, just make it instead of tiptoeing around it by saying we need to hire the "most qualified people." Is it your contention that we (or other airlines) have hired people who aren't qualified save for their demographics and represent a threat to safety? That's a pretty big claim and would certainly be of interest to any of us if you had any data to back it up. Do you? Out of curiosity, do you apply the same level of scrutiny to legacy hires? To non "diversity hires?"

Is the goal of seeking out a more diverse pilot group that is more broadly representative of the demographics of our country not compatible with a culture of safety? The only way that could be true is if you believe that certain demographics are intrinsically less safe.

If what you take away from DEI is it demonizes white males, you have a severe case of Main Character Syndrome. Look around. Look at new hire classes. You're not being replaced any time soon. It takes a special person to be threatened at the prospect of seeing their demographic shift from ~95% to some small number less than that.

 

I started from the bottom.

The poorest Americans only control 3% of the wealth. That’s normal because they are the poorest, what’s shocking is it’s 66 million people in that category.

So by that, anyone who is a member controlling the other 97% of the wealth is someone to model from.

80% of population has 97% of the country’s wealth and 20% as 3% of the country’s wealth.

The poster and Obama want members of the bottom 20% 66 million people to just magically jump to top 10% 33 million people and completely ignore the nice blue color life the rest of the country not in top 10% or bottom 20% are in.

220 million people not in top 10 or bottom 20.

It’s assumed everyone wants to be on top 10 or 1 percent but it’s usually difficult to achieve and a competitive space to be in.

So Obama basically said don’t aim for top 1% aim for top 10% which is wildly unrealistic for the majority of people already in bottom 20%.

A persons life drastically improves by getting out of bottom 20% as young as possible.

Going for broke on Doctor, scientist, or engineer, is kind of bad advice for most poor people. I was never poor and never went without and no one in my family was any of those.

 

Hiring based on race is racism. Of course the POTUS blatantly said he was going to hire a black woman supreme court justice and not even look at anyone else. That is as blatant as racism gets. Racism has become acceptable as long as its against whites.