Don’t read too much into it. He’s APC’s internet tough guy lol You learn to tune him out after awhile

 

ALPA and the company sold RJ relief to the pilots in form of, “we can buy 777’s and 744’s or RJ’s but not both. The RJ will be used only to supplement mainline flying to give passengers more options. If we offer 3 mainline DEN to OMA now we will add 3 RJ’s in the shoulder times to give the customers more options. It will not come at a loss of mainline jobs”. That was all well and good until 9/11. The only limit we had for scope was 1:1 block hour. When a 16 hour flight from ORD to HKG took off that allowed for 16 one hour RJ flights. Our ALPA “experts “ dropped the ball. There was a formula that had to be met to allow RJ’s to take over whole markets and it was weak also. It took almost twenty five years to put the genie back in the bottle but it has finally happened. I still have stickers that say RJUA as we wanted all the flying in house back then

in my opinion the longevity at the RJ carriers also helped move flying back to mainline. Those long term pilots at the RJ ops want pay and benefits near mainline wages. Those wages aren’t supported by the seats they fly. It’s all the fee for departure.

It was a bad time back then. Have you heard about the “guppy killer” stickers that E170 republic pilots had floating around ? A serious lack of SA to wheel those into the ORD cafeteria back in the day.

 

Haha yeah… I see you’re still upset about waltzing in unannounced, proceeding to throw rocks, then when someone came up swinging you retreated back and started playing the victim.

Unsurprisingly here you are defending someone using the same rhetoric.

 

That’s good to hear that rumor was bogus.

 

I think this emphasizes an important point that I made every time I talked to my reps when we were considering the Tumi TA.

The main purpose of the scope clauses aren’t designed for the good times. They are there to protect us when things are bad. I honestly think that the SkyWest people on here arguing that we are losing money limiting the CRJ-550s aren’t wrong right now. Where they are being shortsighted is what happens 2 or 3 or 5 years from now when there’s a serious recession​​​​​.

Right now, there’s more demand than we can handle so we might be losing out not using RJs more. I’ll trade the $100-200 in profit sharing I’m losing out on now to protect me (and my brethren) in the next downturn when the company suddenly can’t fill seats and is looking for ways to cut costs.

 

I don’t believe Skywest even has 550s

 

Not yet, but it’s just been announced that they will.

 

Less RJ (outsource flying) will always be in the best interest of mainline seniority list. The limits, whether it be weight, city pairs, etc. are meant to protect mainline jobs. It's pretty obvious why a lifer at an outsource provider (regional) wants those limits removed. The regional airline model is fading, and they fight over the scraps that mainline contracts allow. This isn't 2001, and the days of rjs flying a majority at hubs are over. Every parked RJ is another job at mainline.

 

They are already being used in the SkyWest fleet. United is running them from ORD to FAR.

 

Did you build your time at a regional before getting on at mainline?