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09-12-2016, 10:53 PM

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seattlepilot

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Although flow is guaranteed, it is not a infinite thing. It will take a one slow down in the economy. Go to a regional that you don't mind being stuck in.

09-12-2016, 11:12 PM

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word302

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Quote:

Originally Posted by seattlepilot

Although flow is guaranteed, it is not a infinite thing. It will take a one slow down in the economy. Go to a regional that you don't mind being stuck in.

^^^This guy gets it.

09-13-2016, 03:23 AM

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Looks like the pay increase has come at the same time AA has indicated a demand for increased flow.

09-13-2016, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by word302

That's assuming Envoy can fill classes. Still a giant pipe dream. Flows have always been a carrot, but keep selling best-case projections as fact.

If their first year FO pay is industry leading, they will fill classes. This is good for the Mesa pilot group, gives us more leverage for a better contract, as our classes will be empty.

09-13-2016, 03:35 AM

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I hope that the rumors are true. It will make me even happier that I chose to go to Envoy in January and said TBNT to the others. I'm glad I have my class date locked in. Excuse demand will be high.

09-13-2016, 03:57 AM

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And PSA and PDT can only come over to AA with the flow, Envoy is able to use either method.[/QUOTE]

For PDT this is INCORRECT. Now you may continue.

09-13-2016, 04:08 AM

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Blueskies67

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It's incorrect for PSA also you can get hired outside of the flow as well.

09-13-2016, 04:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iFlyRC

If their first year FO pay is industry leading, they will fill classes. This is good for the Mesa pilot group, gives us more leverage for a better contract, as our classes will be empty.

This would be good for all pilot groups. RAH, Endeavors, and the other "higher" starting pay companies helped force Envoy to raise the pay.

09-13-2016, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bigtime209

I'd be surprised if the other 2 didn't see the same or at least very similar.

We will indeed. They won't make the other two sacrificial lambs, as we all have advantages for different applicants in our recruiting. We all will have a bunch of jets to staff. Leveling the pay and making it at or near the top of the industry will allow people to look further into the prospectus...