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Old 09-13-2016 | 05:23 PM
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The sad part is what was offered at PSA is a joke. Think about this for just a second. What if all the MEC unions said no, what would happen? They would try again for a better increase. It seems no one really understands the leverage we all three have at this very moment. In unity I suggest we all take a stand and say no.
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Old 09-13-2016 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Belizepilot
The sad part is what was offered at PSA is a joke. Think about this for just a second. What if all the MEC unions said no, what would happen? They would try again for a better increase. It seems no one really understands the leverage we all three have at this very moment. In unity I suggest we all take a stand and say no.
That is what happened with the FO retention bonus. All 3 MEC chairmen left a meeting saying that they would all vote no. Then, Envoy's chairmen stabbed the other two WO in the back and took it.
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Old 09-13-2016 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy
That is what happened with the FO retention bonus. All 3 MEC chairmen left a meeting saying that they would all vote no. Then, Envoy's chairmen stabbed the other two WO in the back and took it.
Here we go......

What kind of replies do you think you are gonna get from this? Thread should go well from here.
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Old 09-13-2016 | 05:30 PM
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Isn't it though? That puts it above Endeavor, which is currently in the lead... Legitimately asking, I only know what I see in the profiles and read on here.
Where does one sign on the dotted line?
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Old 09-13-2016 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Belizepilot
The sad part is what was offered at PSA is a joke. Think about this for just a second. What if all the MEC unions said no, what would happen? They would try again for a better increase. It seems no one really understands the leverage we all three have at this very moment. In unity I suggest we all take a stand and say no.
I think its time we have a serious discussion on 1 MEC representing the 3 LECs of ENY/PDT/PSA
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Old 09-13-2016 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by pagey
Here we go......

What kind of replies do you think you are gonna get from this? Thread should go well from here.
Without knowing the particulars of what happened, the fact remains that Envoy did agree to FO retention bonuses while both the PSA and PDT "scabs" said no. Meanwhile, no one's hiring situations have improved, and that singular action negotiated away a lot of the leverage at the WOs.
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Old 09-13-2016 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Wink
I think its time we have a serious discussion on 1 MEC representing the 3 LECs of ENY/PDT/PSA
Why? PSA and PDT already struck gold by hitching their wagon to Envoy. Our MEC does all the work and you guys just get to ride the coat tails.

You're welcome.

In any case, no more thread derailment! I know PSA and PDT guys are super duper excited to find out when they get to cash in on their me-too clause...but this thread is about Envoy. Thanks.
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Old 09-13-2016 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Wink
I think its time we have a serious discussion on 1 MEC representing the 3 LECs of ENY/PDT/PSA
I really would like to believe the days of whipsawing at the regionals are over, and it's all about attracting and retaining pilots these days, but I think this move would make it easier for the whipsaw to continue with the non wholly owns vs the WO's.
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Old 09-13-2016 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Wink
I think its time we have a serious discussion on 1 MEC representing the 3 LECs of ENY/PDT/PSA

What no one realizes is what option does AA have if we all say no? This is exactly what will happen, nothing for 4-6 months and then come back with a better than last agreement. Everything is in our favor at this point. I really don't see how guys on property would actually take this, as it hardly does anything for FOs here among all 3 WHO's. But I suppose everyone will take the money and run.
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Old 09-13-2016 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Wink
I think its time we have a serious discussion on 1 MEC representing the 3 LECs of ENY/PDT/PSA
Winner winner chicken dinner. The 90a eagles are back too
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