Pay increases at Envoy
09-13-2016, 06:49 AM
#41
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I think the retention money is a great idea. It keeps the captains from bailing prematurely and gives you some money to sock away for the first year pay cut at AA. As far as lifers go, we will see if they are excluded from retention. If excluded, I do not see a problem with that either. They can go to AA if they need more money
09-13-2016, 06:51 AM
#42
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
About a month back, our DO was in CLT and told a group of our LCAs that there would be a "big announcement soon" and that it is a "great time to be at a WO". I thought it was just typical bs to string pilots along, but maybe this is it...
09-13-2016, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
Actually Captain Retention bonus money for pilots flowing to AA only as per RW email. So the company will be continuing AAG's discrimination against select pilots on the property. Now let see how the union spins this discrimination as a positive for all.
This action if it stays as the email states is deplorable act by the company, aag and alpa.
This action if it stays as the email states is deplorable act by the company, aag and alpa.
09-13-2016, 06:55 AM
#46
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Originally Posted by ORDinary
To be accurate, they haven't made to envoy yet.
09-13-2016, 07:05 AM
#48
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Originally Posted by buddies8
Actually Captain Retention bonus money for pilots flowing to AA only as per RW email. So the company will be continuing AAG's discrimination against select pilots on the property. Now let see how the union spins this discrimination as a positive for all.
This action if it stays as the email states is deplorable act by the company, aag and alpa.
This action if it stays as the email states is deplorable act by the company, aag and alpa.
Which airline do you work @? Are you a CA? Just wondering if your feeding flames in the wilderness trying to negate any, and ALL positivity occuring at Envoy (on all levels). Many on here who have 0 stake at Envoy's success or failure. Many are on Envoy Bash party waggon. Things are changing.... lets see.
I'm new @ Envoy property, i'm positive from what i hear, FO's & CA want folks coming in behind them in flood gates. The sooner that happens, the quicker they upgrade and flow & get on AA property before peak AA retirement/hiring begins.
I see 4 aimming points/target goal in the letter. All will help CA on property.
1. Higher pay to match leaders (RAH, Endeavor) to attract Recruitment.
2. Retention/Attrition, pay increase for FO's and CA (prevents 2nd yr FO from making less than newhire). CA rentention bonus/pay. To keep them from leaving jumping ship early for LLC DL, UAL, like others have said.
3. TO improve metric numbers and projections for flows so that upgrade and flow times decrease. Which helps CA move on to AA faster including 12-15yr CA.
My positive POV on the letter (fact), vs your negative interpretations.
09-13-2016, 07:07 AM
#49
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Originally Posted by Aviatrx
I think the retention money is a great idea. It keeps the captains from bailing prematurely and gives you some money to sock away for the first year pay cut at AA. As far as lifers go, we will see if they are excluded from retention. If excluded, I do not see a problem with that either. They can go to AA if they need more money
09-13-2016, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Outof410
Yeah your right. I guess I am jumping the gun. My last day at my 135 job is the end of this month. I have a class date at Endeavor on the 3rd of next month but a offer at PDT. More pay would change everything. Lol
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